Township form for CCW

[Adenn1]

I was paying a sewer bill and decided to stop at my township police department (West Norriton) to see if they had the forms to get my CCW. They gave me the local police check form and the state form. They also have a township form that asks for some odd and maybe questionable information:


--Name and number of family physician
--Reason for request of permit
--Types of Weapons and serial numbers

The form notes that refusal to provide this information is sufficient cause to deny permit.

Anyone else come across these types of questions?

[jpavoncello]

IMHO - Fuck the township, they have no legal right. State Law supersedes their trivial crap. There are several posts quoting state law on what is required for a LTCF, do a quick search and arm yourself with knowledge.

[CZ40P]

Correct me if I am wrong, but why even go to the township police? The county sheriff is charged with issuing LTCF's in Pennsylvania.

I've heard that the sheriff of Montgomery County can be a real ****.

http://www2.montcopa.org/montco/cwp/view,a,3,q,4033.asp

We really need to force our elected officials to reel in these petty bureaucrats who run the individual counties and townships as if they were their own personal fiefdom.

[markheck1]

that's just odd...there's no requirement for any of that to get your LTCF

But in the end it's up to you how many hoops you are willing to jump through to get what you want, or how prepared you are to fight for your rights in the case of a denial on bogus grounds.

IMHO do some searching on state law, and talk to the sheriff when you apply there. If he tells you that you have to do that to get it, then either do it, and gripe.....or apply without it, and sue upon refusal to accept your application, and or subsequent denial. keep in mind that the microscope will be dragged off under that circumstance, and it won't be cheap.

[Adenn1]

I stopped at the department just to get the local check form...not expecting to have to fill out another township form asking questions like these. Why would they want to know the name of my family physician?

For the question about reason for requesting permit, I guess "Because I want one!" won't fly.

Just when I thought something would be easy...

[cybrus]

Wow - according the MontCo sheriff's site, here are the requirements to get a LCTF:

- You will need to COME IN - IN PERSON to the Court House in Norristown with the following:

1. Pennsylvania Drivers License and/or Pennsylvania I.D. Card with your Montgomery County address.
2. If renewing, applicant must remember to supply names, addresses and telephone numbers of two (2) references (not immediate family.)
3. Local Police check card must be signed by your local police department (New Applicants).
4. $25.00 or $46.00 cash, check or money order (No Credit/Debit cards accepted.)
5. Foreign-born applicants who are U.S. Citizens must supply Passport or Naturalization Paperwork.
6. Foreign-born applicants who are not U.S. Citizens must provide proof of immigration status and ninety (90) days proof of residency (i.e. 3 months of utility bills).

Don't remember there being a "local police check card" requirement here in Allegheny county...and is that a typo in #2? Should that be for those "NOT" renewing? Why would you need references for a renewal but not a first application?

[knight0334]

Wow - according the MontCo sheriff's site, here are the requirements to get a LCTF:



Don't remember there being a "local police check card" requirement here in Allegheny county...and is that a typo in #2? Should that be for those "NOT" renewing? Why would you need references for a renewal but not a first application?

The term "renewal" in PA is an oxymoron.

The legal process to renew your LTCF is exactly the same as it is for a new issue.

By default you need the references. However some people still believe they dont need to provide that info on a renewal.

[Exbiker]

Just do county.
http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/sheriff/weapons.html

[indianjack]

--Types of Weapons and serial numbers

Sounds like the first step in registration to me.