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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Concealing a Shockwave does not make it into an AOW. If that was the case, covering a 40" bolt action hunting rifle under your raincoat would make it into an SBR or AOW, or BOTH - which it doesn't.

    What should you be more concerned with is the fact that there is NO overall size limit for AOW's, and the ATF determination could be reversed. ...smooth bore with a barrel under 18" and designed to be held and fired with one hand - one of the clear definitions of an AOW.
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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    So as it stands at the moment (clear as mud), if I wanted to buy a shockwave and keep it in my truck loaded, would it be legal? Yes I have a LTCF. Thanks!
    Aggies Coach Really ??? Take off the tin foil bro.

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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Help me as I am stupid....

    So, without a LTCF, under a SOE, is it legal to transport a long gun, unloaded, in a vehicle?

    And by long gun, I mean a standard 16" AR or 28" Remington 870. I don't own any shockwaves with folding pistol grips and forward hand grips that I can stick down my shorts.

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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    Kim Stolfer also says that you have a duty to inform in PA.
    I'd take his word with a grain of salt.
    Ain't it funny how that works?
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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    Well your LTCF is exactly that. A license to carry firearms as defined in the statute. Long arms do not meet the definition of a firearm.
    Nfa does. (Sbs sbr) Some ar pistols will, shockwaves won't. Or am I wrong?
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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Under normal circumstances no LTCF is required to carry a rifle or shotgun openly or concealed, except within Philly on public domain. Transporting rifles or shotguns in/on a vehicle has to be unloaded. Carrying "firearms" concealed, or in a vehicle, or openly or concealed on public domain in Philly requires a LTCF.

    Under a State of Emergency, carrying "firearms" concealed or in a vehicle, or on Philly public domain doesn't change the requirements. What changes applies to carrying "firearms" openly, or carrying rifles/shotguns on ANY public domain(concealed or openly). During a SoE carrying in any manner of any type of firearm on public domain requires a LTCF - UNLESS EXEMPTED UNDER 6106(b).

    During a SoE a LTCF covers rifles and shotguns, and is required. But, rifles and shotguns still cannot be loaded in/on a vehicle.

    It really isn't complicated. Basically, the rest of PA has to follow the same rules as Philly does at any time.
    that's the way I see it but not according to Kim stolfer

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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Concealing a Shockwave does not make it into an AOW. If that was the case, covering a 40" bolt action hunting rifle under your raincoat would make it into an SBR or AOW, or BOTH - which it doesn't.

    What should you be more concerned with is the fact that there is NO overall size limit for AOW's, and the ATF determination could be reversed. ...smooth bore with a barrel under 18" and designed to be held and fired with one hand - one of the clear definitions of an AOW.
    Pumps need a hand on the pump or they unlock from recoil. There is a constitutional question where congress can not abdicate it’s responsibility to create bills and have them signed into law. Agency regulations are not a substitute. This is why we need TRUMP re-elected so he can replace a few more Supreme Court justices. It is already in the works. Arbitrary rules be dammed.
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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    So as it stands at the moment (clear as mud), if I wanted to buy a shockwave and keep it in my truck loaded, would it be legal? Yes I have a LTCF. Thanks!
    Yep. Thats the way I read it. I want a 10ga version. (semi-auto)

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    Default Re: Per Kim Stolfer - firearms you can have off property now

    this is a reply to that Facebook post from Joshua PrinceScreenshot_20200405-083202_Facebook.jpg

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