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    Default Re: Firearm law question

    Quote Originally Posted by sawgunner73 View Post
    The firearm can be transferred without having to mark anything on it. ATF "suggests" you mark it with a serial number, but it is not required, and wouldn't help anyway in the case of a trace.
    ^ FALSE
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawgunner73 View Post
    The firearm can be transferred without having to mark anything on it. ATF "suggests" you mark it with a serial number, but it is not required, and wouldn't help anyway in the case of a trace.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    ^ FALSE
    Citation, please.

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    Default Re: Firearm law question

    I went back and forth here several years back in regards to buying an AK47 that was a home build.

    I have to see if I can find the thread.
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    That link that was provided in post #19 looked to me to say that ATF suggests applying a serial number to a homemade gun but that one must be attached in the manner prescribed by ATF in order to sell it. It might even apply if passing it to next of kin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
    Citation, please.

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    You can call the ATF, I asked my IOI

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    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19106

    Voice: (215) 446-7800

    ALL firearms SOLD post 68 need the info posted in the manner prescribed.
    Make an 80 and keep it and your fine...SELL IT..then the ATF is involved.
    I wouldn't put it in my books otherwise.
    Or take the word of random dude.
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    Default Re: Firearm law question

    Quote Originally Posted by zachomega View Post
    No.

    You can't even have it transferred as far as I'm aware without a serial number. The 80% kits are meant for personal use only.

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    Serial numbers aren't required. You can sell/give away a firearm that you personally manufactured. Only Federally Licensed Manufacturers, and any manufacturer of a NFA device, is required to put a serial number on the firearm/device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Serial numbers aren't required. You can sell/give away a firearm that you personally manufactured. Only Federally Licensed Manufacturers, and any manufacturer of a NFA device, is required to put a serial number on the firearm/device.
    If that's the case then can't we sell a finished lower?
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    Default Re: Firearm law question

    The gun in it's present condition is a "firearm", PA requires "firearm" transfers to have a background check performed unless the transfer is between spouses, parent/child, grandparent/grandchild, or it is received via bequest(via a will) or intestate succession(family inheritance).

    Unless you are married to the person, or that they are your parent, grandparent, child, or grandchild, or that they left it in a will, or that you are otherwise related to them and they died without a will - it must be transferred through a FFL. <---- this sentence is your answer.
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    Default Re: Firearm law question

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    If that's the case then can't we sell a finished lower?
    You can sell a finished lower. You cannot be in the act of manufacturing federally defined "firearms" for commercial purposes without a FFL, which then requires a serial number.

    You can make your own guns/receivers, you can sell your own guns/receivers that you made for personal use. You cannot be in the business of doing such without a FFL, which in turn requires you to place the serial number.

    PA then regulates transfers of PA defined "firearms". ...so that factors in after.

    Remember, you have to abide by the laws in this order: Federal, State, Municipal in PA (in some states it is: Federal, State, County, Municipal)
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    Default Re: Firearm law question

    Here's a long discussion on this very topic, http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2...emade-firearm/

    Question would be, what does an FFL do with that home-brewed firearm, if being transferred, as required by state law pertaining to handguns
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