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    Default Re: warren will kill filibuster for GC

    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    While the President has no constitutional authority over senate rules, the reality is that the Senate typically bends to Presidential desire, especially when the President's party is in the majority. That happens all the time. The President has great influence over Senate rule-making. Look no farther than McConnell recently stating that he'll work with the President regarding his impeachment defense.

    Fear mongering? Just wondering, do you honestly think all would be ok with any one of the current Democrat candidates as President?
    I don't believe what you said here for a minute. McConnel only said he would work with the President on this particular issue because he knew all along that the impeachment by the Dims was trumped up and purely political. Other than that, I do not believe that he (or any other Senate leader) would accede to a Presidents demands on Senate rules. Funny thing up there in Washington, they all like to control their own turf.
    Last edited by Defender; February 9th, 2020 at 09:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender View Post
    I don't believe what you said here for a minute. McConnel only said he would work with the President on this particular issue because he knew all along that the impeachment by the Dims was trumped up and purely political. Other than that, I do not believe that he (or any other Senate leader) would accede to a Presidents demands on Senate rules. Funny thing up there in Washington, they all like to control their own turf.
    If you don't think that Presidents make demands of their House and Senate leaders, I'd say you likely don't truly know the nature of political power. They all take orders. It is a way of life. When the requests comes with "the President wants you to _____" it happens the vast majority of the time.

    Don't believe it? Ok, but you'd be denying reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    If you don't think that Presidents make demands of their House and Senate leaders, I'd say you likely don't truly know the nature of political power. They all take orders. It is a way of life. When the requests comes with "the President wants you to _____" it happens the vast majority of the time.

    Don't believe it? Ok, but you'd be denying reality.
    Yurrr right! Politicians know that the popularity of the president weighs heavy.

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    Default Re: warren will kill filibuster for GC

    Quote Originally Posted by buckengr View Post

    Stop talking about fear-mongering. You're part of the problem.
    Bending the narrative, exaggerating and outright lying is what the left does. This article is yellow journalism and propaganda to stir up the base. It is a fundraising pitch.
    Warren wanting to pack the court and passing legislation she cannot possibly enact is her pandering to her base. She has had time enough to try both as a senator and has done nothing.
    Here are the bills she has co-sponsored. Renaming a post office, hearing aids and a commemorative coin.

    S. 693: National POW/MIA Flag Act
    S. 1501: Blast Pressure Exposure Study Improvement Act
    S. 3130: SIT-REP Act of 2018
    S. 2355: A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 25 New Chardon Street Lobby in Boston, Massachusetts, as the “John Fitzgerald Kennedy Post ...
    S. 1503: Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coin Act
    S. 1198: Veterans Care Financial Protection Act of 2017
    S. 670: Over-the-Counter Hearing Aid Act of 2017

    But Pocahontas is going to take your guns, please send $25 or whatever you can to stop her and her socialist cronies.
    I am on their side but I don't like being sold a bill of goods using false advertising.

    Quote Originally Posted by buckengr View Post
    Do we have compelling pro-gun candidates in your district? Are our own friends and neighbors excited about voting FOR a pro-gun candidate in your district?
    I am in the 9th district also known as the most Republican district in PA. We have had a Republican in the House since 1939. Trump won 70-30 in 2016. Not much room to move the needle.

    And Virginia is not lost. The pushback to Dem overreach will sweep the tyrants out of office the next election. Sanctuary counties were born. Its tea party 2.0 in VA.

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    Dems threatening to "nuke" again.

    Such a violent tribe.


    She can't "nuke" the Constitution and thankfully she has only about 1/1,024 chance of even winning her own party's nomination.
    Psalms 73:26

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    Default Re: warren will kill filibuster for GC

    What does Lizzy baby have to say about bows and arrows, and tommyhawks?...

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    Coops, you forgot to quote the second part of my statement:

    Quote Originally Posted by buckengr View Post
    This may not be the form that the threat ultimately takes, but the threat is here and now. It is on our doorstep.
    My point is to make sure that the asleep people are awakened to the full totality of the anti-gun pressure against them. If Warren wants to apply pressure in this way, then they damn sure should know about it, even if she can't actually accomplish anything in this exact form. That's bad enough already and it should piss everyone off and make them want to get engaged.

    I get your point about yellow journalism, but the greater concern to me is people not paying attention at all.

    I'm glad your local candidates are solid. No sarcasm intended. Can every pafoa member here say the same thing? If not, why not?

    And I agree that VA is not completely lost, yet. But the manner in which they ended up where they are VERY closely mirrors where PA is now.

    Repealing bad laws once they are laws is not as easy as stopping them in the first place and challenging them all in the courts is costly, time consuming, and is very unlikely to succeed at stopping ALL the bad bills from being enforced.
    I am not a lawyer.

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