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    Default Re: ATF has been deliberately misinterpreting a key gun control regulation

    A CNN article?

    Speaking of being misleading..........IIRC all of these cases involved unfinished 80% lowers or people in the gray area finishing them. Yes the ATF is on shaky ground with their vague rulings but no one can just go out and by a finished lower with no paperwork (legally).

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    Default Re: ATF has been deliberately misinterpreting a key gun control regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    A CNN article?

    Speaking of being misleading..........IIRC all of these cases involved unfinished 80% lowers or people in the gray area finishing them. Yes the ATF is on shaky ground with their vague rulings but no one can just go out and by a finished lower with no paperwork (legally).
    Except one of the cases in Cali involved selling fully complete lowers
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    Default Re: ATF has been deliberately misinterpreting a key gun control regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Great idea. Why don't we eliminate all forms of registration and disband the ATF while we're at it.
    I was thinking the same thing. The ATF only prosecutes about 75 gun crimes a year that result in roughly 35 convictions. How many tax dollars do we dump into the corrupt organization that allowed 2500 guns to be run into Mexico? According to the article, the background check system is broken too:

    Robison was accused of illegally purchasing them on Rowold's behalf, though authorities belatedly discovered that Robison, too, had a criminal record that should have prohibited him from buying them as well.
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    Default Re: ATF has been deliberately misinterpreting a key gun control regulation

    (b) Machinegun
    The term ‘‘machinegun’’ means any weapon
    which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be
    readily restored to shoot, automatically more
    than one shot, without manual reloading, by a
    single function of the trigger. The term shall
    also include the frame or receiver of any such
    weapon, any part designed and intended solely
    and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a
    weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be
    assembled
    if such parts are in the possession or
    under the control of a person.

    Red is mine.

    This is straight from the NFA of '34.

    This is where the triggerpacks, & conversion devices being machineguns comes from.

    Machineguns really wouldn't be affected, even if the upper was made the receiver, the lower would remain the " combination of parts".
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