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February 13th, 2020, 05:05 PM #61Member
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Thank you for answering my question. As long as I can make it down to the jury pool from the main entrance I will just use that. I knew of needing your LTCF when checking the firearm, didn't know you could push back. Wonder what the consequences would be if declining to show it?
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February 13th, 2020, 07:02 PM #62
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There is nothing in that law that requires you to present your LTCF. Security has no authority to see it, and a deputy has the same authority as you do, that is to say common law. They can pound rocks, or find a cop that has the authority to request to see your LTCF.
Of course, such a request outside of some other criminal activity is likely also a civil rights violations, just like demanding to see your driver’s license when you have committed no crime is."Cives Arma Ferant"
"I know I'm not James Bond, that's why I don't keep a loaded gun under the pillow, or bang Russian spies on a regular basis." - GunLawyer001
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February 13th, 2020, 07:06 PM #63
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February 14th, 2020, 12:03 AM #64
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"Cives Arma Ferant"
"I know I'm not James Bond, that's why I don't keep a loaded gun under the pillow, or bang Russian spies on a regular basis." - GunLawyer001
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February 15th, 2020, 04:45 PM #65Junior Member
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Sorry for not updating this, but I went back to the courthouse and their SOP for checking a firearm has changed. I informed the security guard I had a firearm to check in, he told me to follow him over to the lockers when we got there he said, please face the locker, place your firearm inside close the locker and remove the key then he gave me a receipt for the firearm. After I picked up my firearm he apologized to me about the prior incident and I went on my way.
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February 15th, 2020, 05:26 PM #66
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February 15th, 2020, 06:37 PM #67
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February 15th, 2020, 11:42 PM #68
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No, thank you for your post and the update. It was the start of a good conversation, that I think many of us have used to improve our understanding. The more we know, and actually think about these issues ahead of time, the better prepared we are to deal with them.
A few years back I was at the Snyder county court house. They had security, I check my firearm, no issue. Few weeks later they had put deputies out front instead. Deputy didn’t know the law, and wanted me to unholster my firearm, unload it, and place it in the locker. This caught me unprepared due to my previous uneventful experience there. However thanks to the experience and sharing of knowledge of others on this forum, I informed him (not as confidently as I would have liked), that there was no chance that was going to happen. That my firearm required me to disengage the safety to unload it, which is unsafe as they do not have a clearing barrel or safe direction to point it, that I was not going to unholster my firearm unless I had a reason to use it, and the law did not require it to be unloaded & this I could not be required to unloaded it. I told him I was going to take the entire holster off my belt like I had before and put it in the locker.
Likewise, a lot of people think open carry is a big deal. But if you talk to the people on the open carry forum, no one has anything to report. It is much ado about nothing. No one noticed and no one cares."Cives Arma Ferant"
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March 17th, 2020, 06:22 AM #69Member
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I know the statute reads that "each county must provide" but I'm curious if that applies to a federal courthouse or a district justice office?
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March 17th, 2020, 07:06 AM #70
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