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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbill990 View Post
    The way it’s worded seems like the current 80% BS really effects dealers selling them and not end users as much buying them from non FFLs.
    When you're making up your own fake laws as you go, sometimes it takes a bit of tweaking to get it as unlawful as possible.

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbill990 View Post
    The way it’s worded seems like the current 80% BS really effects dealers selling them and not end users as much buying them from non FFLs.
    Pretty much. It's a bullshit interpretation not backed by law so in reality they can only badger FFLs because they regulate them via licensing

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    Exclamation Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbill990 View Post
    The way itís worded seems like the current 80% BS really effects dealers selling them and not end users as much buying them from non FFLs.
    Just over the border BS it's becoming a virus .

    https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/gov...guns-requiring

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s2143

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    If you can't find one that you can purchase in person, and are ok with ordering it online...

    https://ar15safespace.com/?s=Polymer...t_type=product

    Put your item in the cart to see the actual price.
    Shipping is cheap at around $5

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Here's the link to the form on the PICS website that FFL's must fill out:

    https://epics.pa.gov/Pics/PDF/PMFR_Application.pdf

    Yes, FFL's are required to run a PICS check on 80% lowers as of today. Here's the directions for the new policy:

    https://epics.pa.gov/Pics/PDF/Letter_to_Dealer.pdf
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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by WCMG View Post
    Here's the link to the form on the PICS website that FFL's must fill out:

    https://epics.pa.gov/Pics/PDF/PMFR_Application.pdf

    Yes, FFL's are required to run a PICS check on 80% lowers as of today. Here's the directions for the new policy:

    https://epics.pa.gov/Pics/PDF/Letter_to_Dealer.pdf
    Again it's still not a law unless they can show me what was passed in the house . Also it's only going to apply to ffl holders which means companies that are not ffl holders can sell you whatever the hell they want.

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Anyone ever deal with these guys? https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Po...r_p_11076.html

    They have the kits for $108.99

    Edit: NVM. Think I found my answer in another thread
    Last edited by rckeystone; January 9th, 2020 at 10:41 AM.

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by rckeystone View Post
    Anyone ever deal with these guys? https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Po...r_p_11076.html

    They have the kits for $108.99

    Edit: NVM. Think I found my answer in another thread
    Go with AR15safespace.com team delta tactical has gotten much better but for service and price AR15safespace is great, also rockeybrass.com has the whole add to cart to get the better price as well. Both are phenomenal places to order from

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by rckeystone View Post
    Anyone ever deal with these guys? https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Po...r_p_11076.html

    They have the kits for $108.99

    Edit: NVM. Think I found my answer in another thread
    They sell primarily crap stuff to people who don't know any better. Once in a while you find a deal on a brand name item.
    I ordered from them once. I can't get off the mailing list. I'm currently playing my own spamming game of using their "contact us" form to ask things like "why won't you respond to me?" every day. Eventually they will get tired of me like you guys are!

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp 45 View Post
    Go with AR15safespace.com team delta tactical has gotten much better but for service and price AR15safespace is great, also rockeybrass.com has the whole add to cart to get the better price as well. Both are phenomenal places to order from

    Midway has the G17 LONG SLIDE version again for $75 (only black is in stock)
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020552143

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