State police told to treat ‘ghost guns’ parts as firearms

[JenniferG]

I keep seeing people on this very forum say things like "Screw VA, they are reaping what they sowed." We need to realize that PA is no better. We have failed to turn out pro-gun voters before and we are bound to do it again unless we truly get organized and engaged. We need to engage the people in our circles outside of this forum and prime them to act in advance of the coming onslaught from the anti-gunners.

Make no mistake, what happened to VA will be coming to PA. Bloomberg's Everytown has admitted a shift in strategy back toward states since the appetite for Federal action has (temporarily) slowed.

Do not wait until it happens. PA must mobilize now! Be proactive and put the pressure on at every level! Township, county, city, state, Federal, all of the above. It's time to speak up and organize.

Part of the problem seems to be the lack of a coordinating event as a signal--that the public doesn't perceive a legislative threat and there isn't the impetus to act. I think what's happening in VA ought to be the signal since this Bloomberg disease is absolutely going to spread. This latest PA Attorney General/PSP action hot on the heels of Bloomberg's "petitioning ATF to reclassify 80% lowers" is proof of this influence here and now.

They may be late to act, but I can tell you the people in VA are talking to their neighbors and their coworkers. They are talking about it at church and at the gym and in the grocery checkout line. They are inviting friends and acquaintances to go to the range, encouraging them and explaining how to buy their first gun, and are making new shooters and gun owners. They are getting more skin in the game. They are speaking boldly about their rights and what it means to be prepared to protect themselves and their families and to live free from tyranny. They are showing up to town and county meetings and signing up to speak. They are donating to gun rights organizations. (And yes, they are buying guns, mags, and ammo.)

So I ask: What are you doing today?


I have a few ideas which I hope might encourage you to act:

We can get informed about what is happening in VA, both the actions by the state and the response from fellow patriots and use this as a point of discussion with our own friends, family, neighbors, and coworkers to start having these important conversations.

We can talk about what similar unconstitutional legislation could/does look like here, how it is a very real (and in many cases, already realized) threat, and why we must and how we can get organized now in order to stop it.

We can invite that friend or cousin or neighbor or young mother to the range and introduce them to firearms as a tool of self protection, empowerment, and a guarantor of rights (or just plain fun). We can show them how to go about purchasing a gun for defense of life and liberty.

We can attend and speak at our township, borough, or county board meetings, get to know our state and local politicians, and challenge them to support our rights by introducing and passing pro-2A resolutions and legislation.

We can get to know our local police, build a rapport, and ask them tough questions which force them to consider whether they would enforce an unconstitutional order or law.

We can act now, individually or together.


Some final thoughts:

Consider joining FOAC. The weekly newsletter and web portal are very valuable for tracking PA and Federal actions.

If you haven't been following already, I highly recommend reading or subscribing to the Virginia Citizen's Defense League (VCDL) VA alerts, especially some of the coverage of the (very successful) efforts to turn out large crowds to support the 2A sanctuary resolutions. Crowds routinely in the 1000s, some reportedly as large as 6000 or more. It's a near-revival and pretty inspiring.

KeepVA2A.com is another great (and recent) site which is helping to inform and organize those fighting this battle. Good info and a great example of what's possible. This site was created by one random guy with some web development skills who saw a need and took action.

If VA can do it, PA has no excuse! Why wait until the Wolf is at our door?

For liberty.

Telling gun owners they have to go out and vote if they want to keep their firearms is like showing a cross to a vampire. Gun owners in Virginia stayed home in droves and let the government employees in one county dictate to them whether they can own firearms or not. I was made fun here on this very forum for pointing out the fact that gun owners fail to vote then complain about new gun laws and then blame the NRA.

[Pilot321]

Telling gun owners they have to go out and vote if they want to keep their firearms is like showing a cross to a vampire. Gun owners in Virginia stayed home in droves and let the government employees in one county dictate to them whether they can own firearms or not. I was made fun here on this very forum for pointing out the fact that gun owners fail to vote then complain about new gun laws and then blame the NRA.

That's exactly right, and could be the reason for Chester County going ALL DEMOCRAT, because too many stayed home and didn't vote. Yet enough Jersey transplants did, didn't they?

[KPShooting]

How did they find these people if there were no background checks being performed?

Either it's a lie or they were illegally tailing/surveilling known felons.

This tyrant needs to go.

[Hodgie]

Either it's a lie or they were illegally tailing/surveilling known felons.

Right out of the Bloomberg play book.

[Wilderness 1864]

What I like about what VA did was to move decisively statewide to put the Sanctuary resolutions in place BEFORE the infringement become law.

As a political matter, that has put the legislators on notice that they are going to have to pass the infringement laws over the objections of most of the State. It might deter some Democrats from doing it. This is much better that what happened in NY, where almost all the counties in the state (except in the NYC suburbs and a few other urban counties) passed resolutions (before "Sanctuary" became popular) doing the same thing. They reacted and now the Governor can simply call them rebels defying the law. It might have though succeeded in putting the brakes on any statewide enforcement of the laws that Cuomo might have had in mind. I can only speculate on that.

We are very much like VA, having modest success in advancing 2A rights over the last years, while constantly being forced to spend money and fight to keep the status quo at the State and local level.

In VA, the Democrats are going to have to openly infringe and know that they are the rebels (rebelling against the Constitution). Although we did not stop it, I do believe that our collective and large response to Peduto kept the Pittsburgh infringers from being unanimous, and surprised a lot of people with the amount of support for gun rights that they probably did not know existed.

Time to send a similar message on a Statewide basis. This might be a more comprehensive statement than only showing up to protest Shapiro for his latest Jim Crow-like attack on our civil rights.

[icp4life162005]

I suspect an example may be made.

Thens its all of our civic duty to buy enough that it terrifies them.

[Domer Dad]

Amongst the other BS:

“During a gun show in York, agents observed a prohibited purchaser from making an 80% receiver into a fully functioning firearm without ever leaving the gun show and without ever going through a background check.”

How is this possible / believable???

Master whittler?
Portable drill press?
Dremel with long extension?
Media too stupid / corrupt to question anything a lib says?

[mikelets456]

That's exactly right, and could be the reason for Chester County going ALL DEMOCRAT, because too many stayed home and didn't vote. Yet enough Jersey transplants did, didn't they?

This is not the way to think of it---Politicians are not the gatekeepers for Constitutional rights, they are NOT allowed to bypass them the way they're doing it....period! We don't expect our vote to protect free speech we vote based on policies based on law, not laws that are against state and federal constitution----it's (The 2A and Article 1 section 21) already protected under the Bill of rights. The question is why are we putting up with tyrants trampling on our GUARANTEED rights that they swore an oath to uphold? Trusting a politician to respect and obey natural rights is a dangerous road to go down. These are our rights that are not up for dispute, polls or discussion....

[USMC3531]

Amongst the other BS:

“During a gun show in York, agents observed a prohibited purchaser from making an 80% receiver into a fully functioning firearm without ever leaving the gun show and without ever going through a background check.”

How is this possible / believable???

Master whittler?
Portable drill press?
Dremel with long extension?
Media too stupid / corrupt to question anything a lib says?

Most likely bs, but it's possible someone had a "ghost gunner" mini cnc set up

[Emptymag]

I keep seeing people on this very forum say things like "Screw VA, they are reaping what they sowed." We need to realize that PA is no better. We have failed to turn out pro-gun voters before and we are bound to do it again unless we truly get organized and engaged. We need to engage the people in our circles outside of this forum and prime them to act in advance of the coming onslaught from the anti-gunners.

Make no mistake, what happened to VA will be coming to PA. Bloomberg's Everytown has admitted a shift in strategy back toward states since the appetite for Federal action has (temporarily) slowed.

Do not wait until it happens. PA must mobilize now! Be proactive and put the pressure on at every level! Township, county, city, state, Federal, all of the above. It's time to speak up and organize.

Part of the problem seems to be the lack of a coordinating event as a signal--that the public doesn't perceive a legislative threat and there isn't the impetus to act. I think what's happening in VA ought to be the signal since this Bloomberg disease is absolutely going to spread. This latest PA Attorney General/PSP action hot on the heels of Bloomberg's "petitioning ATF to reclassify 80% lowers" is proof of this influence here and now.

They may be late to act, but I can tell you the people in VA are talking to their neighbors and their coworkers. They are talking about it at church and at the gym and in the grocery checkout line. They are inviting friends and acquaintances to go to the range, encouraging them and explaining how to buy their first gun, and are making new shooters and gun owners. They are getting more skin in the game. They are speaking boldly about their rights and what it means to be prepared to protect themselves and their families and to live free from tyranny. They are showing up to town and county meetings and signing up to speak. They are donating to gun rights organizations. (And yes, they are buying guns, mags, and ammo.)

So I ask: What are you doing today?


I have a few ideas which I hope might encourage you to act:

We can get informed about what is happening in VA, both the actions by the state and the response from fellow patriots and use this as a point of discussion with our own friends, family, neighbors, and coworkers to start having these important conversations.

We can talk about what similar unconstitutional legislation could/does look like here, how it is a very real (and in many cases, already realized) threat, and why we must and how we can get organized now in order to stop it.

We can invite that friend or cousin or neighbor or young mother to the range and introduce them to firearms as a tool of self protection, empowerment, and a guarantor of rights (or just plain fun). We can show them how to go about purchasing a gun for defense of life and liberty.

We can attend and speak at our township, borough, or county board meetings, get to know our state and local politicians, and challenge them to support our rights by introducing and passing pro-2A resolutions and legislation.

We can get to know our local police, build a rapport, and ask them tough questions which force them to consider whether they would enforce an unconstitutional order or law.

We can act now, individually or together.


Some final thoughts:

Consider joining FOAC. The weekly newsletter and web portal are very valuable for tracking PA and Federal actions.

If you haven't been following already, I highly recommend reading or subscribing to the Virginia Citizen's Defense League (VCDL) VA alerts, especially some of the coverage of the (very successful) efforts to turn out large crowds to support the 2A sanctuary resolutions. Crowds routinely in the 1000s, some reportedly as large as 6000 or more. It's a near-revival and pretty inspiring.

KeepVA2A.com is another great (and recent) site which is helping to inform and organize those fighting this battle. Good info and a great example of what's possible. This site was created by one random guy with some web development skills who saw a need and took action.

If VA can do it, PA has no excuse! Why wait until the Wolf is at our door?

For liberty.

Good post - full of non-judgemental observations, as well as potential solutions, without getting preachy, or pointing fingers.