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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Virginia Gun Rights Supporters Rally Outside State Capitol in Richmond
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/vi...l-in-richmond/

    More than 200 gun rights activists wearing “Guns SAVE Lives” stickers rallied Monday in Virginia, vowing to fight any attempt by the new Democratic majority in the state legislature to pass new restrictions on gun ownership. .....
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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    I hope pro 2nd America is following what is happening in Virginia, takes notices, and emboldens themselves to organize and do the same in their states.

    I honestly feel we are at a very real breaking point in our country and this Leftist bullshit has got to stop.
    Jimmy cracked corn and HE didn't care! Why should I?

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    When will PA counties wake up and follow Virginia?

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Quote Originally Posted by Will3212 View Post
    When will PA counties wake up and follow Virginia?
    It won't happen until we've gone from purple to blue and lost the Governor and the legislature. Until that happens, voters will continue to stay home. Unfortunately, by that time, it will be game over.
    "Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle"

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Heard it was up to 40 counties now.

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Ecclesiastes 10:2 ........... United States v. Cruikshank

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    So the gov backed down on the gun confiscation however they want registration so the fight is far from over

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/virgin...Q9f-OCrMT16m7o

    Stephen Gutowski - DECEMBER 10, 2019 5:55 PM

    Virginia Democratic leaders abandoned their gun confiscation proposal Monday following a grassroots outpouring of opposition to gun control across the state.

    Governor Ralph Northam (D.) and incoming Senate majority leader Dick Saslaw (D.) said they will no longer pursue their marquee plan to ban the possession of "assault weapons." Instead, they will include a provision to allow Virginians to keep the firearms they already own. The reversal comes before the newly elected Democratic majority has even been sworn in, after a majority of the state's counties declared themselves "Second Amendment sanctuaries."

    "In this case, the governor's assault weapons ban will include a grandfather clause for individuals who already own assault weapons, with the requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period," Northam spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky told the Virginia Mercury.


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    The Democrats' backtracking may indicate a trend in the gun debate in Virginia. Gun-control advocates poured millions of dollars into successfully flipping the state legislature, but the outpouring of opposition to their agenda, even in deep blue areas, may cause some new members of the state legislature to be cautious about backing gun control. The concession is unlikely to end the fight brewing across the state, however, as Democrats still plan to pursue a ban on many new sales.

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League, which has pushed counties to refuse to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, said there is "no doubt" the Democrats' retreat was a result of the Second Amendment sanctuary movement.

    "They were hoping to play that card later, but they're playing it now because they have to find some way to slow down this whole process," Philip Van Cleave, the group's president, told the Washington Free Beacon.

    Gun-rights groups said the backtracking is merely a political strategy designed to enact new gun bans and registration.

    "Gov. Northam and the rest of Virginia’s anti-gun politicians’ idea of a compromise is to threaten hundreds of thousands of Virginians with felonies unless they submit to government control," Catherine Mortensen, a National Rifle Association spokesperson, told the Free Beacon. "The NRA will stand with the Commonwealth’s law-abiding gun owners in solidarity to oppose gun bans, confiscations, and registrations."

    "We've been down this compromise road and their version of a compromise is they never give up anything," Van Cleave said. "We are expected to give up something every time and we're not doing it anymore. I think gun owners are tired of this and they're gonna stand up and fight this stuff."

    The grandfather clause offered by Northam's office had no impact on VCDL's opposition to the bill, Van Cleave said, and the group will fight any new gun ban—whether it has a confiscation component or not.

    "The problem with what his suggestion is it's still taking away guns," Van Cleave said. "Yeah, we get to keep our AR-15s, but what about the next generation and the generation after them? Who are we to negotiate away their rights and accept this crap?"

    He did suggest they could work with Democrats on gun legislation if it targeted criminals instead of gun owners.

    According to Van Cleave, there were 59 sanctuaries in the state as of Tuesday. VCDL is organizing supporters to attend 20 more meetings this week alone.

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    It won't happen until we've gone from purple to blue and lost the Governor and the legislature. Until that happens, voters will continue to stay home. Unfortunately, by that time, it will be game over.
    Last email/ Facebook post from a VCDL member I received has it at 77 counties.

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Quote Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    Yes, but I was told NY doesn't have a a1/s21 or 2nd type article in its constitution so there is little or no legal recourse where Virginia does have things listed in it. So unless it goes to the U.S. Supreme Court for review they are screwed and have to live under the total control of NYC and THEIR OPINIONS on how life should be.
    It sounds like your point is that there is little to no recourse at the state level in NY, but there is in VA.

    To me, that only sounds like a longer path to SCOTUS. Think about how that would play out. Citizens would challenge the state in the state court system. No matter who wins or loses, the decision will get challenged all the way up to SCOTUS. It's not like the state would take a decision against them and roll over.

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    Default Re: Virginia, Interesting twist, sanctuary counties, deputies, now county militias.

    Compromise? The article is correct: they don't ever compromise. Their idea of compromise is we'll only take half your guns (this time).

    How about constitutional carry for something they want, like universal background checks? Why not remove all gun free zones for a magazine restriction? Screw them and that Bloomturd horse they rode in on...
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