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    Question NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Hey guys Im new names AL 24 years old in Philly. Took the Philadelphia Police Test in the summer Im on the waiting list. Guys I just got a GLOCK19 9mm and I got a box of SPEERGOLD DOT 124gr+P and WINCHESTER XST 147gr..am I allowed to use them in my gun?

    I called and spoke to a detective today at the gun permits place and he said they are illegal. Then I called the state police and was transferred 3 times only to get no answer (the trooper said search online) !! Ha-ha

    I called a few gun joints in Philadelphia and they said its NOT illegal. Can you guys PLEASE give me the low-down? Also do you have any link stating HOLLOWPOINT AMMO IS LEGAL IN PHILADELPHIA AND THE STATE OF PA? Also glock 19 have 15 round mags is that ok to for carry?

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hallow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    This isn't the peoples republic of new jersey. Hollow points are completely legal in this state.

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALPAPS View Post
    Hey guy’s I’m new names AL 24 year’s old in Philly. Took the Philadelphia Police Test in the summer I’m on the waiting list. Guy’s I just got a GLOCK19 9mm and I got a box of SPEERGOLD DOT 124gr+P and WINCHESTER XST 147gr..am I allowed to use them in my gun?

    I called and spoke to a detective today at the gun permits place and he said they are illegal. Then I called the state police and was transferred 3 times only to get no answer (the trooper said search online) !! Ha-ha

    I called a few gun joints in Philadelphia and they said it’s NOT illegal. Can you guys PLEASE give me the low-down? Also do you have any link stating HOLLOWPOINT AMMO IS LEGAL IN PHILADELPHIA AND THE STATE OF PA? Also glock 19 have 15 round mags is that ok to for carry?

    Thanks Guys
    Hollowpoints and regular capacity magazines are legal in PA. Occasionally, cities attempt to enact illegal laws that are contrary to state law. But the current Philadelphia DA has said that she will not enforce Philadelphia's illegal laws.

    I guess you've already learned that the police are not as familiar with PA firearms law as we would like. Hopefully this site will help you to increase the police batting average. Welcome to the forum.

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Yes, HP rounds are perfectly fine.

    You will not find a law that says they are "legal", because laws only state what is not legal.

    I have a 33 rd mag for my G19. You're welcome to borrow it for carry.
    It's perfectly legal, but you'll look like a dumbass with it holstered.


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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    as noted, hollowpoints are legal in PA...and you can get yourself a 33rd mag for that G19 if ya want...though that might make it a bit tough to conceal.

    welcome to the land of the free.

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    btw, here is a link to the PA Uniform Firearms Act.

    http://www.frontlinearmory.com/misc/paoc/ufa.html

    this is the state law on firearms. of note is the fact that there is no mention of hollowpoints, no mention of magazine capacities, and there is a preemption clause that prevents philly from enfocing their own gun laws (though the morons on their city coucil keep passing them anyway):

    6120. Limitation on the regulation of firearms and ammunition.

    (a) General rule.--No county, municipality or township may
    in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession,
    transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition
    components when carried or transported for purposes not
    prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALPAPS View Post
    [B]Hey guys Im new names AL 24 years old in Philly. Took the Philadelphia Police Test in the summer Im on the waiting list. Guys I just got a GLOCK19 9mm
    **Michele sighs, shakes head and sinks in chair** as another one succumbs to the insanity

    Oh, and we are not all guy's here!



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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Never ask a law enforcement officer a question about the legality of anything firearm related. If they happen to be one who does actually have a grasp on the UFA, they almost certainly learned it from this forum, or from a lawsuit filed against them.
    Here is the only reference to ammunition legality, that I know of. It states that these types of ammunition are illegal to have or use during the commission of a crime of violence. In other words, you can use and possess even these types of bullets, as long as you are not committing a crime of violence.


    6121. Certain bullets prohibited.
    (a) Offense defined.--It is unlawful for any person to
    possess, use or attempt to use a KTW teflon-coated bullet or
    other armor-piercing ammunition while committing or attempting
    to commit a crime of violence as defined in section 6102
    (relating to definitions).
    (b) Grading.--An offense under this section constitutes a
    felony of the third degree.
    (c) Sentencing.--Any person who is convicted in any court of
    this Commonwealth of a crime of violence and who uses or
    carries, in the commission of that crime, a firearm loaded with
    KTW ammunition or any person who violates this section shall, in
    addition to the punishment provided for the commission of the
    crime, be sentenced to a term of imprisonment for not less than
    five years. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the
    court shall not suspend the sentence of any person convicted of
    a crime subject to this subsection nor place him on probation
    nor shall the term of imprisonment run concurrently with any
    other term of imprisonment including that imposed for the crime
    in which the KTW ammunition was being used or carried. No person
    sentenced under this subsection shall be eligible for parole.
    (d) Definition.--As used in this section the term "armor-
    piercing ammunition" means ammunition which, when or if fired
    from any firearm as defined in section 6102 that is used or
    attempted to be used in violation of subsection (a) under the
    test procedure of the National Institute of Law Enforcement and
    Criminal Justice Standard for the Ballistics Resistance of
    Police Body Armor promulgated December 1978, is determined to be
    capable of penetrating bullet-resistant apparel or body armor
    meeting the requirements of Type IIA of Standard NILECJ-STD-
    0101.01 as formulated by the United States Department of Justice
    and published in December of 1978.
    (Dec. 21, 1984, P.L.1210, No.230, eff. imd.)

    1984 Amendment. Act 230 added section 6121.

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Welcome to the PAFOA! Glad to have you aboard!

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    Default Re: NEW TO THE SITE!!! Is Hollow point Ammo LEGAL in Philadelphia and P.A?

    Welcome to the forum. You can learn a lot here.
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