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    Default Re: Purple Paint Law In PA. indicating No Tresspassing / Hunting.

    Quote Originally Posted by chp1911 View Post
    How do you figure that the tax payers are subsidizing anything to do with a property dispute. The parties that are disagreeing over the property borders/trespass are required to pay for their own legal representation.
    I have some personal examples, but I will resort to a high profile example documented in the public domain. Throughout our discussion we have been loosely assuming that the property owner is synonymous with the person who has sole interest in a given parcel of land. However, the law as applied to the real world is far more complicated. Tenants, easement holders, utility, railroad & highway rights-of-way, and other types of property interests maybe of equal or even greater interest than that of the underlying owner in the control, use, and/or possession of a given area of land. The property owner may not even know of these burdens on their land. In short, you can be potentially sued and even prosecuted for supposedly trespassing on land that you own by someone else claiming an equal or greater interest in it. These claims may be true but they can also be dubious. The accuser, including a large corporation, can save on legal fees if they can get the government to take a property dispute case for them on the taxpayers dime.

    I believe United States energy independence is a good objective. Besides concerns about the use of eminent domain and property rights, I am not opposed to installing new pipelines. So without getting further into the merits of the Sunoco Mariner East pipelines, the news article linked at the bottom should be a warning about how the ability to use law enforcement and criminal trespass law to address property disputes can be abused. Fortunately, this project was in the news enough and the respective DA under pressure that there was not a successful criminal prosecution of a property owner for trespassing on their own property.

    For the reasons I have stated on these forums previously, and this example are among what concerns me about having taxpayers subsidize such property dispute cases. The purple paint law may only add more scenarios of this. If these cases belong in court it should be as a civil matter. Criminal prosecution should be reserved for those who are criminally culpable. As such, many types of property dispute issues should not merit prosecution.

    https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylv...-construction/
    Last edited by Mosinshooter762; December 11th, 2019 at 07:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Purple Paint Law In PA. indicating No Tresspassing / Hunting.

    Quote Originally Posted by 57springer View Post
    I can see confusion on this, as paint in many colors is used in forestry /logging to mark trees .

    I could see Anti-Hunting Activists abusing this law to "close off" hunting lands. Purple paint is a bit too vague.

    Some people are also color blind. What about them?

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    Default Re: Purple Paint Law In PA. indicating No Tresspassing / Hunting.

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Yep. Doorbells and even unlocked gates in front yards with a sidewalk to the door are implied consent to go to the front door. A locked gate, or other signage detailing conditions can negate the consent.
    Knowing how generally and pleasantly correct you are, I'm not disagreeing.....

    but can you give me some sources for this information, so I can better research it myself and ensure that I make sure my residence is not implying consent to be violated in any way.
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    Default Re: Purple Paint Law In PA. indicating No Tresspassing / Hunting.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCC View Post
    I could see Anti-Hunting Activists abusing this law to "close off" hunting lands. Purple paint is a bit too vague.

    Some people are also color blind. What about them?
    I wonder if there is a need for pictographs to inform those that are illiterate.


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