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November 25th, 2019, 03:46 PM #1
Transferring stripped AR lowers
I just spoke to a local dealer and he indicated that I needed to choose if the lower was going to be completed into a handgun or long gun before the transfer so that the PSP handgun paperwork could be included if required. All other times I have been witness to a transfer of virgin AR lowers, they were transferred as “OTHER” and only the federal form was required. Am I missing something?
I always thought the “OTHER” indication and building the lower out first as a pistol then later as a rifle would cover all contingencies for the future.
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November 25th, 2019, 04:06 PM #2
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
So long has it hasn't been assembled as a handgun, the PSP form SP4-113 should NOT be filled out. ...regardless as to how you assemble it afterwards. PA law has a specific definition of a "firearm" that requires a barrel length measurement. If it is a bare receiver it has no barrel to measure.
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November 25th, 2019, 04:27 PM #3
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
OP are you using a dealer as a "personal choice"? Without digging through the regs, off the top of my head I THINK - no ffl is required so long as it's an "In-State" transfer to someone lawfully allowed to purchase. AKA "face to face"
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685
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November 25th, 2019, 05:57 PM #4
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
NRA CRSO/Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun inst. BSA Rifle/Shotgun Merit badge counselor. US Navy Marksmanship Team Staff
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November 25th, 2019, 04:25 PM #5
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November 25th, 2019, 04:31 PM #6
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
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November 25th, 2019, 04:31 PM #7
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
It would be a transfer to me of a new stripped lower from a non-local FFL, so FFL required on my end.
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November 25th, 2019, 04:33 PM #8
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"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685
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November 26th, 2019, 02:22 PM #9
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
OP, just FYI, this (filling out a SP4-113 on a stripped lower) was fought by PA FFLs in 2009 and the PSP (after getting their pee-pees whacked by the ATF) rescinded what they directed PA FFL's to do in July 2009 in the Jan 2010 issue of the Firearm Dealers Newsletter that the PSP used to publish. Where this FFL is getting his info is beyond me since it changed almost 10 years ago. That said, this does come up still and most of these FFL's will not budge. Find a different FFL or tell the FFL to read the Jan 2010 FDN again. Newsletters like this I do not get rid of because of incidents like this.
Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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November 26th, 2019, 02:27 PM #10
Re: Transferring stripped AR lowers
Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
NRA CRSO/Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun inst. BSA Rifle/Shotgun Merit badge counselor. US Navy Marksmanship Team Staff
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