More fake (gun) news. Who actually believes this?

**Misery Loves Shotguns** · November 26th, 2019, 08:05 PM

Springfield needs to stop making guns. If they're not making a gun no one would ever buy (XD mod 2 with GRIP ZONE, XDE) then they give it a cringy, awful name like 911 or HELLCAT ... They fucking suck. I think it was James from TFBTV who referred to the guns Springfield was sending with the micro red dot as the "tug job media package".

**Emptymag** · November 26th, 2019, 08:15 PM

When was the last time anyone on this forum asked about a Springfield XD, or even mentioned owning one?

I don't remember either.

**Hodgie** · November 26th, 2019, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

When was the last time anyone on this forum asked about a Springfield XD, or even mentioned owning one?

I don't remember either.

And you can always find them not selling in the classifieds.

**JoshIronshaft** · November 26th, 2019, 10:23 PM

They are popular, for whatever reason, with low information gun buyers. I think most FFLs would agree they sell well enough.

**Emptymag** · November 26th, 2019, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by JoshIronshaft

They are popular, for whatever reason, with low information gun buyers. I think most FFLs would agree they sell well enough.

I'll admit that many many years ago, I thought they were awesome - on paper anyway. A Glock with more features that costs way less.
What's not to like?
I actually remember fondling them at gun shows before they had the Springfield name slapped onto them.

**Hodgie** · November 26th, 2019, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

I'll admit that many many years ago, I thought they were awesome - on paper anyway. A Glock with more features that costs way less.
What's not to like?
I actually remember fondling them at gun shows before they had the Springfield name slapped onto them.

Yeah when it was imported as the S2000 and under $250.00. Once it bore the SA name prices almost doubled on the same exact Gen1 pistols.

A friend of mine who got me into guns had a 1st gen SA in .40 S&W and it was a POS that would fire out of battery. It eventually was replaced by SA after 3 trips back to them for the same issue. The new one was promptly sold.

**Gunsnwater** · November 27th, 2019, 12:27 AM

Hellcat looks like real innovation but I’m not exactly shure where to grip it. I hope they stamp the spring box "ammo clip".

**Misery Loves Shotguns** · November 27th, 2019, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Gunsnwater

Hellcat looks like real innovation but I’m not exactly shure where to grip it. I hope they stamp the spring box "ammo clip".

HAHAHAHAHA!!

**Hodgie** · December 6th, 2019, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by bluetrane2028

I don't have a problem with competition in a segment.

This is marketed as more concealable (slimmer) than a G26, but with the same capacity, like the Sig P365 is.

There's also a 3rd party company that's making a double stack mag to fit inside a Glock 43x/48, which if I remember correctly would make the 48 the new 19, just slimmer.

I'm interested in micro nines with high capacity but I don't need one at the moment, just going to wait and see what wins long term.

If the Glock double stack in a single stack frame mag turns out to be reliable as the factory Glock stuff, I'd probably go that way. It's an all metal design, so without the double layer that Glock always uses (and nobody else does), it allows the inside of the mag to be wider. I forget which company is actually making them, but it's one of the ones that does OEM mags for other manufacturers, and not just some random "gee we can fold metal too" place.

I'm sure your search engine of choice will find you more.

TL/DR: Competition is fine. Overhyping of new guns in articles is nothing new, ignore as any other dumb ad.

Just saw this today its pretty in depth on a early prototype 15 round 43x mag from Shield Arms and so far so good.

**firemanmark** · December 7th, 2019, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Misery Loves Shotguns

Springfield needs to stop making guns. If they're not making a gun no one would ever buy (XD mod 2 with GRIP ZONE, XDE) then they give it a cringy, awful name like 911 or HELLCAT ... They fucking suck. I think it was James from TFBTV who referred to the guns Springfield was sending with the micro red dot as the "tug job media package".

Springfield doesnt actually "make" their handguns, the are importers. As to the Hellcat, i handled one in an LGS yesterday and wasnt impressed. My 365 isnt going anywhere.