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    Quick question....My wife had purchased a complete AR lower a few years ago. She has since gotten other uppers/lowers and this one has sat in my safe untouched.
    When she had purchased it, we were not married. I know that in PA it is not required to transfer rifles/shotguns. Am I able to SBR this lower (in my name) even though it is currently registered to her for NFA purposes?
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    Default Re: SBR Question

    If I was married, I would get a trust.

    She can give it to you.
    But before you form one it as an individual, have it engraved with your name and make it into an SBR, read this. https://www.silencershop.com/blog/post/nfa-gun-trust
    Last edited by :-); November 16th, 2019 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERMedic View Post
    Quick question....My wife had purchased a complete AR lower a few years ago. She has since gotten other uppers/lowers and this one has sat in my safe untouched.
    When she had purchased it, we were not married. I know that in PA it is not required to transfer rifles/shotguns. Am I able to SBR this lower (in my name) even though it is currently registered to her for NFA purposes?
    Pa has no registration. It shouldn't be in an nfa registry. In order to avoid future problems (like in a divorce) buy a new lower.
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    I think it would be ok. Ive done a few that weren't in my name.

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    Technical point - there is only a "Record of Sale" on handguns in PA.

    If she bought it as a lower receiver, then only a 4473 was completed (if FFL did it properly) and therefore it wouldn't even be in the "Record of Sale" database.

    It is lawful for her to give any firearm type to you.

    YES you can SBR it
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    Any time someone tries to do something like this instead of using it as an excuse to build another rifle, it makes me weep like the Indian on tv when I was a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExFlyinguy View Post
    Technical point - there is only a "Record of Sale" on handguns in PA.

    If she bought it as a lower receiver, then only a 4473 was completed (if FFL did it properly) and therefore it wouldn't even be in the "Record of Sale" database.

    It is lawful for her to give any firearm type to you.

    YES you can SBR it
    Not applicable in this case, but a registered SBR/SBS/AOW/machine gun couldn't be gifted to a family member without transfer, could it?

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    Default Re: SBR Question

    Yes and no.

    No, not with out a proper Form 4 and tax paid transfer.

    Yes, when the original owner dies and wills item to said family member. Then it is a tax free transfer on a Form 5.
    HGW, llc ~ Title 1 & NFA sales/manufacturing ~ Transfers - Title 1 $20 - NFA $50

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    Default Re: SBR Question

    I would buy a new Quality Lower and go with the trust. Don't buy a cheap POS Lower.

    Just my $0.02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD66948 View Post
    I would buy a new Quality Lower and go with the trust. Don't buy a cheap POS Lower.

    Just my $0.02.
    Where was it stated that his wife’s lower is a cheap pos?
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