Dunkelbergers doing PICS checks for black powder guns?

[bigandy1966]

Did they actually DO a check, or did they just collect the money and pretend they did.

How would PICS handle a request to do a check on a BB gun or a slingshot? Would they do it?

didn't read the whole thread, but to your post, lets just ask PRNJ, FOID for air rifles and Slingshots are illegal state wide.
Go figure

[Emptymag]

I can't believe there are people on this forum who would stick up for them running PICS checks for the purchase of cap guns and Swiss Army knives.

Am I stretching it a bit? Maybe - but tell me, which one of these items requires a PICS check?

Glock G19
Black powder revolver
BB gun/Pellet rifle
Cap gun
Swiss Army knife
Crossbow
Lighter fluid
Matches
Slingshot
Bubble gum


I guess running a PICS check for lighter fluid and crossbows and such is "A-OK" since they are just "covering their asses"?

This is absurd.

[knight0334]

Did they actually DO a check, or did they just collect the money and pretend they did.

How would PICS handle a request to do a check on a BB gun or a slingshot? Would they do it?

Neither, PICS or NICS, knows what kind of firearm it is when the call is made. The only details given by the FFL to computer/operator are about the potential buyer (DL/ID #, option for UPIN entry, etc, etc, etc).

[Emptymag]

Neither, PICS or NICS, knows what kind of firearm it is when the call is made. The only details given by the FFL to computer/operator are about the potential buyer (DL/ID #, option for UPIN entry, etc, etc, etc).

Thanks, I forgot about that until after it was mentioned later.

I guess the question now boils down to WHAT someone is allowed to use PICS FOR.

I have a hard time accepting that it's fine to run a PICS check outside of very specific parameters.

[knight0334]

It is illegal, on PA and Federal levels, to (knowingly) use the PICS/NICS systems for anything other than firearm transfers or clearing folks for purchase/carry permits.

A BP firearm is not a "firearm" under federal law. ...except some models that can be interchanged with real "firearm" barrels. Example: Some Thompson/Center models, H&R Huntsman, etc. Or, if a Remington 1858 has been converted to use fixed cartridges - then it becomes a firearm(unless made AND converted before 1898).

[knight0334]

No , it's called covering yer ass.

It is called breaking state and federal law if they are knowingly doing it incorrectly. The PICS and NICS systems are only allow to be used for firearm transfers or purchase/carry permits.

An "Antique Firearm" is not a firearm(certain exceptions for certain situations). A Rem 1858 is not a firearm unless it was converted to a cartridge gun after 1898.

[middlefinger]

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i will say the gun shop that used to be on 715 , a few times I was in there hood rats from new york city were in there buying ammo

[Emptymag]

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i will say the gun shop that used to be on 715 , a few times I was in there hood rats from new york city were in there buying ammo

I will say that... "OK", so what of it? Run a PICS for ammo now too???

[middlefinger]

I will say that... "OK", so what of it? Run a PICS for ammo now too???

did I say that?

[abner13]

I will say that... "OK", so what of it? Run a PICS for ammo now too???

It's coming.

There's also PATCH , https://www.psp.pa.gov/Pages/Request...ry-Record.aspx