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October 9th, 2019, 09:46 PM #21Grand Member
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Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
I am not going to review the entire list, however these two stood out to me.
#1 • proceedings free from unreasonable delay and a prompt and final conclusion of the case;
#2 • have the safety of the victim and victim's family considered when setting the bail amount and release conditions for the accused;
#1 LOL Court cases and investigations take time. Real life isn't a TV show. Cases can take months or even years to complete. Not in one hour with fifteen minutes of commercials.
#2 Bail is to ensure the return of the Defendant, not to punish the Defendant.
On the surface this sounds like a great idea, however its not something I can supportAggies Coach Really ??? Take off the tin foil bro.
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October 9th, 2019, 11:19 PM #22
Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
What are the chances of these types of alterations to the states constitution passing?
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October 9th, 2019, 11:27 PM #23Super Member
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Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
I am deeply concerned with the bias in the wording of the official ballot title. This is what people will have to read, comprehend, and decide to vote yes or NO to on election day:
"Shall the Pennsylvania Constitution be amended to grant certain rights to crime victims, including to be treated with fairness, respect and dignity; considering their safety in bail proceedings; timely notice and opportunity to take part in public proceedings; reasonable protection from the accused; right to refuse discovery requests made by the accused; restitution and return of property; proceedings free from delay; and to be informed of these rights, so they can enforce them?"
This wording diminishes the impact to the rights of the defendant and buries the most significant element nearly 3/4 of the way through the sentence.
Who would want to vote against "[granting] certain rights to crime victims, including to be treated with fairness, respect and dignity..."? How many people do you think will read far enough to get to the "right to refuse discovery requests made by the accused" clause, let alone understand its implications?
Asking those who know better about PA Amendment and ballot initiative procedures: Can/could a PA judge theoretically stop this from either 1) going on the ballot before the election, or 2) preventing it from going into effect in the event that it gets passed? (Assuming primary arguments would be on grounds of violating the 6th and 14th Amendments to US Constitution.)Last edited by buckengr; October 9th, 2019 at 11:32 PM.
I am not a lawyer.
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October 9th, 2019, 11:29 PM #24
Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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October 10th, 2019, 12:37 AM #25
Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
Never amend the constitution
The Gun is the Badge of a Free Man
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October 10th, 2019, 01:00 AM #26
Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
Ballot questions are ALMOST ALWAYS written in a biased manner for the desired effect of tricking people to vote "YES".
If it sounds too good to be true - it is.I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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October 10th, 2019, 01:26 AM #27Grand Member
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October 11th, 2019, 07:16 AM #28
Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
When a billionaire donates massive amounts of monies for ad campaigns to advocate for alterations in state constitutions, and when these alterations are primarily supported by Democrats and RINOs, one can be certain that no good can come of it.
See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/carterc...-million-push/
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October 11th, 2019, 07:22 AM #29
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ACLU Press Release
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/...wsuit-voids-ci
NOVEMBER 1, 2017
HELENA, MT – The Montana Supreme Court ruled in favor of the ACLU of Montana’s lawsuit today that CI-116, commonly referred to as Marsy’s Law, is unconstitutional and is “void in its entirety.”
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October 11th, 2019, 07:55 AM #30
Re: Amending the PA constitution via Marsy’s Law on 2019 ballot
The billionaire behind the push for Marsy's Law has had some legal problems of his own.
See: https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-...egas-drug-case
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