Question About Buying A Long Gun In PA

[j_h_smith]

I'm not a PA resident and I'm a little confused about some of the requirements in the For Sale section. It would seem that most long guns that are for sale require some LTCF license to do a face to face transfer. Why is that? Even in Maryland, we conduct face to face transfers with nothing more than seeing a driver's license. This includes shotguns and rifles.

I could understand if it were a handgun to be transferred but why a long gun? Is this some PA law? I'm just curious, I thought PA gun laws were less stringent than MD.

[buxbandit]

Not a law, just responsible sellers.

[j_h_smith]

Not a law, just responsible sellers.

Seems like the Left has you doing for them what they can't get done with laws. Strangest thing I've ever seen.

[buxbandit]

Seems like the Left has you doing for them what they can't get done with laws. Strangest thing I've ever seen.

Take a look at gunlawyers response. I didn't realize that it needed to be spelled out for you. And your smart enough to use ddg to search the laws yourself. Find another pond to troll.

[j_h_smith]

Take a look at gunlawyers response. I didn't realize that it needed to be spelled out for you. And your smart enough to use ddg to search the laws yourself. Find another pond to troll.

I'm not trolling anyone. I just find it very interesting that I have the ability to buy a long gun from someone in Maryland without tethering more so than some self imposed demilaw in PA. Seems like PA is going left in a heart beat. I've got 2 sons that live in PA, so I do have a dog in this fight, so to speak. I had thought about retiring from Maryland and living in PA. But with these self imposed rules, along with how Left the state government has gone, it's not likely I'll be moving there.

BTW, Gunlawyer has been wrong before and I suppose he'll be wrong a few more times in his life. You keep on giving the Left exactly what they can't get in Harrisburg. That'll show 'em. Since I NEVER mentioned anything about interstate purchases, he's off base to start with. Secondly, if some one who (for whatever reason) doesn't have an LTCF is prevented from exercising their 2A right, then by golly Gunlawyer sure showed them what the 2A is all about.

Keep giving, they'll keep on taking.

[ArmyVet]

If the seller chooses to take steps to protect himself, why does that matter to you?

[Coops]

Since I NEVER mentioned anything about interstate purchases, he's off base to start with.

You did not say "interstate purchase" but the response was an answer as to why the LTCF is asked for. Nobody wants to get jammed up because some yahoo from Maryland or New Jersey wants to do a face to face transfer without providing proof of citizenship. He was not talking about you, just in general explaining how some people are being diligent about following the law.

[Big Kahuna 19547]

I'm not trolling anyone. I just find it very interesting that I have the ability to buy a long gun from someone in Maryland without tethering more so than some self imposed demilaw in PA. Seems like PA is going left in a heart beat. I've got 2 sons that live in PA, so I do have a dog in this fight, so to speak. I had thought about retiring from Maryland and living in PA. But with these self imposed rules, along with how Left the state government has gone, it's not likely I'll be moving there.

BTW, Gunlawyer has been wrong before and I suppose he'll be wrong a few more times in his life. You keep on giving the Left exactly what they can't get in Harrisburg. That'll so 'em. Since I NEVER mentioned anything about interstate purchases, he's off base to start with. Secondly, if some one who (for whatever reason) doesn't have an LTCF is prevented from exercising their 2A right, then by golly Gunlawyer sure showed them what the 2A is all about.

Keep giving, they'll keep on taking.

With all due respect Mr. Smith, you live in one of the 5 worst states for firearm freedom in the United States if not any freedoms. It is also a state that has one of the most insane AR laws. Your firearm permitting process is all but non existent, and your local and state tax system is legendary. The Disney Corporation may be the only group of people better at separating you from your money than a politician from Maryland. My father in law lives there and would be gone if not for my mother in law refusing to leave her friends. She can't claim family, because they all fled, much like your children. Don't be afraid to move to Pennsylvania, it's an island of freedom surrounded by liberal insanity. You may be able to actually carry one of the firearms you own in public place, on your person and loaded and the license will cost you $20 for five years. Many county sheriffs will give it to you in minutes. Our shit hole called Philadelphia will give you one in 45 days. They don't want to, but we are a shall issue state and that is the maximum time they can drag it out. Here you will be able to buy a gun and take it home that day. You don't have to wait days or weeks, and get this... it doesn't have to be on list... you can also leave our state with an AR 15 and then bring it back to Pennsylvania... Mr Smith, you're welcome to move closer to your children and experience freedom. Then you can share our biggest fear, which is that the assholes that surround us keep moving to Pennsylvania and might outnumber us someday and actually get something changed. Move and spend more time with your kids and grand kids, your life will change dramatically for the better.

[GunLawyer001]

I'm not trolling anyone. I just find it very interesting that I have the ability to buy a long gun from someone in Maryland without tethering more so than some self imposed demilaw in PA. Seems like PA is going left in a heart beat. I've got 2 sons that live in PA, so I do have a dog in this fight, so to speak. I had thought about retiring from Maryland and living in PA. But with these self imposed rules, along with how Left the state government has gone, it's not likely I'll be moving there.

BTW, Gunlawyer has been wrong before and I suppose he'll be wrong a few more times in his life. You keep on giving the Left exactly what they can't get in Harrisburg. That'll so 'em. Since I NEVER mentioned anything about interstate purchases, he's off base to start with. Secondly, if some one who (for whatever reason) doesn't have an LTCF is prevented from exercising their 2A right, then by golly Gunlawyer sure showed them what the 2A is all about.

Keep giving, they'll keep on taking.

You live in Maryland. You're trolling the PA classifieds, and complaining about some sellers asking for proof of (a) PA residence and (b) non-prohibition before selling a gun to a buyer.

Quite honestly, you sound like a pedophile complaining that the local school put up a tall solid fence, or a bank robber complaining about the new armed guard.

PA is a "shall-issue" state, there are about a million LTCF's for 12 million residents. Other than a few drug offenders, most folks who are eligible to even touch a gun are able to spend the $20 and get an LTCF for 5 years. Any serious gun owner should have an LTCF, because of all the legal protections it provides. And Maryland residents shouldn't be whining about Pennsylvania sellers taking steps that make it harder for a Maryland resident to break Federal law.

[R L Suehr]

Seems like the Left has you doing for them what they can't get done with laws. Strangest thing I've ever seen.

Bullshit

I've asked to see a ltcf before. The difference is I don't record it for posterity like the govt. Unless I know the person, I want to see something that says you live in this state at a minimum, since that covers my ass for the fed. I prefer a ltcf, since it makes a somewhat reasonable inference the buyer isn't a prohibited person.

Now the big difference is after I look at it, that's it. Something like UBC catalogs it. I don't generally sell much, but that's the way I've done it with anybody I didn't know previously. Now if you're somebody I know, I probably wouldn't check jack shit.