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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    Can you copy/past the article? Can't get past paywall with adblocker.
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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    Ryan Flohr, who has legally purchased seven guns since the age of 21, said he refuses to keep them out of the public’s sight in the wake of a mass shooting.

    "I want to help eliminate the threat of mass shooters,” Flohr said in a phone interview. He said he thinks law-abiding, Second Amendment-carrying gun owners are the ones who are punished, largely because gun-control advocates overreact after a mass shooting

    The 26-year-old Dover man shopped for groceries with his Scorpion pistol at a Giant grocery store in East Manchester Township in York County the last weekend in September. A patron saw his gun and told a manager, who called police.

    "I have carried that gun on multiple occasions,” he said. “That was the only time it was a big deal.”

    He said his intention wasn’t to “intimidate” or “antagonize” customers.

    Northeastern Regional police officers determined he legally owned the gun and had proper permits. He wasn’t charged with any crimes.

    "It’s my Second Amendment right,” he said, adding that he cooperated with officers and answered all their questions.

    Dozens of big retailers, including Walmart, have told gun owners they want them to leave their guns at home and not bring them into their stores in the wake of a mass shooting in August at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas. It was the deadliest shooting in the company’s history at one of its stores.

    Many stores say they haven’t banned open carry but hope customers will comply. Giant is among those that says it has endorsed an no-open-carry policy.

    "We respectfully request that customers not bring firearms in our stores even if permitted by applicable state and local laws,” the company tweeted.

    Flohr said he didn’t realize the store’s policy had changed. But, he said, “I don’t think there’s a better time than now to have open carry."

    Related: Can Pa. stores keep you out if you openly carry a gun?
    He said he believes that owning and carrying a gun, and showing he has the power to protect himself and others, might deter a mass shooter. He said it was laughable to compare the gun he carried to the weapons that mass shooters seem to prefer.

    "You never hear of a mass shooting where the shooter had a pistol,” he said. "Mass shooters come into the store with 'assault rifles’ and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and bulletproof vests.”

    Flohr said his gun is a 9 mm loaded with 30 rounds of ammunition. He said he didn’t have any additional ammunition with him, and the safety was turned on.

    "My thing about all the mass shootings around the country, if a gunman came in to shoot up the grocery store, and they saw me, they’d think twice about shopping there,” he said. “Or, maybe I’d become the first target, I don’t know.”

    He said he carries a gun in large retailers because he believes they’re more likely to be targeted by mass shooters. He doesn’t take his gun into places such as McDonald’s, he added.

    A few years ago, he experienced a similar situation where a manager at Spencer’s Gifts at the York Galleria contacted police because he saw Flohr’s gun under his jacket. Flohr has a legal concealed carry permit.

    Concealed carry permits are issued in Pennsylvania by county sheriffs’ departments. The permits allow gun owners the right to transport registered guns in cars and carry them, concealed, into public places.

    Responsible gun owners need to band together to help prevent the next mass shooting, he said. He said he fears banning open carry is the start of an unraveling of gun owners’ rights.

    "We’re going to be told you can’t open carry, that you can conceal carry only on Wednesdays after 6 p.m., and then we’re going to be told you can’t have guns,” he said. “Our rights will slowly be taken away.”

    "I had my hands on the grocery cart,” he said. “The only time I touched my gun is when I adjusted it out of my way.”

    Flohr said he’s spending less time on Facebook after he published a picture of him holding the gun he took with him to the store. He said he’s received constant hateful messages.

    “I have nothing to apologize for,” Flohr said. "I’m never going to cave to people who are uneducated about guns. I feel that people need to be more gun aware than gun fearing.”

    His post was shared nearly 1,000 times, garnered over 500 comments and received over 1,000 reactions. Some of them said he was showing off his white privilege.

    Commenters speculated that if he had been a black man the situation would have ended violently. Others said he was seeking attention.

    "Looking for attention, you could have just carried a smaller pistol,” Ricky Grace wrote. "It’s the damn grocery store, how scared are you? I’m all about gun rights but you obviously were not worried about your protection, you wanted to seek attention.”

    His action was "ruining” it for other responsible gun owners’ rights, Grace wrote.

    He didn’t carry his pistol for attention, Flohr insisted. While he’s used to openly carrying his gun at the supermarket, he said it’s clear that public opinion has changed.

    A gun owners’ temperament is no different than a non-gun owners’ temperament, he continued. The assumption that a person who owns a gun doesn’t know how to control his or her temper is unjust, regardless of how the world views mass shooters.

    To say a mass shooter never had a criminal record before they “went crazy” on a shooting rampage is a fear tactic, he said.

    "I’ve been angry just like everybody else who has ever been angry with or without my gun,” he said. “I have never had the thought to shoot anyone. Nobody’s life is worth going to jail over mine. If I need to defend myself, I don’t need to shoot anybody just because they made me mad. I care more about my future than to just start shooting anyone who upsets me.”

    He said that he and most other gun owners know better than to carry a gun into a bank, movie theater or an airport. He’s also received several “dirty looks” from sales associates where’s he’s always shopped.

    Related: Central Pa. Giant evacuates customers after man with gun enters store
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    He won’t shop any more at the Glen Drive Road Giant, which is only five minutes away from his house.

    "Now that it seems like everyone knows who I am, I don’t think I could conceal carry without being harassed,” he said. “The manager was doing what he was told to do. They were told to approach someone with a firearm and ask me to leave the store and put it in my car.”

    He continued: "I’m not looking to take any legal action against them. I just wish the people who had the time and the money, I wish they would stand up for those who carry.”
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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    I have an asshole; I was born with it; I'm not going to pretend that I don't have one. It serves a vital function in my life, I would probably die without it.

    Still, I don't flaunt it. I keep it under my clothes unless I'm cleaning it or using it.

    I don't make others look at it in public.

    Don't be an asshole.
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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    My "favorite" quote:

    "You never hear of a mass shooting where the shooter had a pistol,” he said. "Mass shooters come into the store with 'assault rifles’ and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and bulletproof vests.”
    (shakes head and walks away)

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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    My "favorite" quote:
    The permits allow gun owners the right to transport registered guns in cars and carry them, concealed, into public places.

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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    it is almost like the guy that bought a sks and a case of ammo at the Pittsburgh gun show and then went to the mall right behind the gun show he might have been weighting for a ride not sure but the media made a big deal out of it .

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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    Quote Originally Posted by JDA58 View Post
    The permits allow gun owners the right to transport registered guns in cars and carry them, concealed, into public places.
    You caught that, too, huh?

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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    Quote Originally Posted by JDA58 View Post
    The permits allow gun owners the right to transport registered guns in cars and carry them, concealed, into public places.
    We have lawmakers in PA who say that too. Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    We have lawmakers in PA who say that too. Pathetic.
    If you say it enough, people believe it's true.
    Not so hard to convince people that registration is no big deal when they already think it's in place.

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    Default Re: Man walked into Giant with his AR/AK

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    My "favorite" quote:



    (shakes head and walks away)
    You almost want to find the person who said that, and smack them in the face.
    There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy - Dante.

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