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  1. September 29th, 2019, 03:38 PM #11
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    Quote Originally Posted by QuackXP View Post
    Because I want to follow the law that way if I have to testify I don't have to purger myself.
    Why on earth would you ever testify against yourself? We have the 5th amendment, you know.
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  2. September 29th, 2019, 03:43 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royinmontco View Post
    Why on earth would you ever testify against yourself? We have the 5th amendment, you know.
    Not for long if the Dems win in 2020!

    As it stands now , invoking the 5th is an admission of guilt.
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    A simple answer for this is if you have another pistol upper just put that on the lower first. Nothing in the law about needing to shoot it in any configuration.
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  4. September 29th, 2019, 04:36 PM #14
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    Why even ask publicly?
    Agreed.
    This is a question for the ATF!

    Get your typewriter and a sheet of paper!!!


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  5. September 29th, 2019, 04:40 PM #15
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Agreed.
    This is a question for the ATF!

    Get your typewriter and a sheet of paper!!!


    Then, post the response.
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  6. September 29th, 2019, 05:16 PM #16
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortytwo View Post
    Yes. In fact, when the barrel is over 16" long you can even put a VFG on it without running afoul of the NFA.
    Barrel typically only has to be 12"+ to use a vfg. 26" overall from the end of the bare buffer tube to the end of the threads.

    You can even cheat that a bit using an a5 length buffer tube, gets you down to 11" barrel territory.
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  7. September 29th, 2019, 06:18 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyandy View Post
    Barrel typically only has to be 12"+ to use a vfg. 26" overall from the end of the bare buffer tube to the end of the threads.

    You can even cheat that a bit using an a5 length buffer tube, gets you down to 11" barrel territory.
    Not so, this was addressed by the ATF a few months ago. There is a p00fa thread about it.
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    Not so, this was addressed by the ATF a few months ago. There is a p00fa thread about it.
    It is true. Only thing that changed was the latest clarification that it had to be measured in its smallest condition. Folded if it folds, bare fixed tube if it's fixed. >26" OAL and it can go back and forth between a pistol and a "firearm" simply by adding a VFG or taking it off. "Title 1 firearm others" can't be concealed on ones person though or it then becomes an AOW. And yes it's been discussed into the ground and the information is scattered but clear if you follow this kind of stuff.

    Also, I am not a lawyer.
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    It's fine, just not the other way around, then it's not fine...


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    That is backwards. Pistol first then rifle then pistol. Rifle first sbr next or nothing but another rifle.
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    Default Re: AR-Pistol Lower test with Rifle Upper

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Hahahahaha!!! I just had a similar question pop into my head a few days ago.

    I got my SBA3 pistol brace in, but don't have my 2nd pistol lower completed and that brace doesn't fit a pistol tube, so I couldn't try it out on my other pistol. I removed the MFT Minimalist stock from a carbine and slid the SBA3 brace onto the tube. NICE!

    Did I just "reconfigure it" into a "long barreled pistol"??? LOL!!!
    No the barrel length is the issue. You redesigned the brace into a stock. I’m not into speculating anything going forward.
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