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September 23rd, 2019, 05:03 PM #11
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
See above. Or click this link for a good example...
https://princelaw.files.wordpress.co...er-7-28-17.pdfSi vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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September 23rd, 2019, 05:27 PM #12
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September 23rd, 2019, 07:53 PM #13Super Member
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Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
I'm not a lawyer, but "discharging" isn't mentioned in preemption at all. I understand the "how can you be 'well regulated' if you can't practice" argument (or even more extreme, "how can you protect yourself with a gun if it's illegal to shoot it"), but that still requires somebody higher than the local magistrate to make it stick. Thankfully my town has no such ordinance.
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September 23rd, 2019, 07:56 PM #14
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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September 24th, 2019, 09:40 AM #15
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
I hope people are able to attend.
As for the nopise, how would you know form a distance the different between fireworks and gun fire?
I have had neighbors and myself run to the window to what woke us up as what we though gun fire but it was fireworks. Just happened to be the sound and the houses etc.
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September 24th, 2019, 10:28 AM #16
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
Every word in a statute matters. So "lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth" doesn't mention "discharging" firearms, and there are no cases that I know of at the appellate level holding that a municipality can't bar DISCHARGING firearms within its jurisdiction, with an implicit exception for self-defense (per the justification defense).
The grandfathering clause applicable to pre-existing ranges is an exception to this. And we wouldn't need a grandfathering clause for pre-existing ranges if municipalities couldn't ban discharges of firearms.
The state hunting regs also preempt local rules, meaning that your local tyrants probably can't eliminate you hunting on private land with the consent of the landowner.
Quick, insert "discharging" into the appropriate category below:
- ownership
- possession
- transfer
- transportation
The statute lists 4 categories of "gun-related activities", but omits "use". The rules of statutory construction make that significant. We aren't allowed to gloss over the meanings of the words used.
I'm as sure of this as I'm sure that a non-SOT trust can't legally make a new machinegun. Or that our appellate courts are open to allowing municipalities to bar guns from city-owned property, as long as they use their rights as property owners and not the criminal statutes (see Footnote 9 of the Erie disaster).Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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September 24th, 2019, 11:01 AM #17
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
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September 28th, 2019, 10:23 AM #18
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
Woo hoo!
Bucks County township sticks to its guns, rejects major firearms restrictions
Supervisors in Springfield Township, Bucks County, decided no wide-ranging ordinance on shooting firearms on private property is needed. The supervisors looked into an ordinance because of numerous complaints of excessive shooting. (Andrew Aughenbaugh/TNS FILE PHOTO)
The anticipation of an ordinance that would bring sweeping restrictions on shooting firearms on private property brought out at least 70 people Tuesday to the Springtown Fire Department to hear what rules would be imposed by Springfield Township supervisors.
While many from the upper Bucks County township attended to oppose any rules, the supervisors agreed to only one provision, which was allowing shooting between 7 a.m. and dusk.
Supervisors Chairman David Long presented a list of possible restrictions, such as property size, the number of people permitted to shoot on a property, days of the week and noise.
In all the categories, except the 7 a.m. to dusk rule, none of the other four supervisors expressed a need to enact any restrictions.
“I think common sense does a better job than getting into rules and regulations,” Supervisor Jim Nilsen said.
Supervisors explored the ordinances in response to numerous complaints of excessive shooting.
“We’ve had complaints of people blazing away for three hours,” township Manager Michael Brown said.
Township solicitor Scott MacNair said what the supervisors decided on is not a prohibition against shooting, only the hours.
Nilsen said there’s a solution if people are not abiding by safe shooting practices, such as not shooting over property lines, using inadequate or no back stops or not taking other obvious safety measures: “If they are being reckless, that is already covered by state law.”
https://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-...4pe-story.html
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September 28th, 2019, 12:01 PM #19
Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
So, any property owners up that way need a shooting buddy?
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September 28th, 2019, 03:13 PM #20Super Member
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Re: Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing
Seems like another good reason to do away with the suppressor restrictions in NFA.
It should be like:
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