Springfield two bucks county discharge ordinance hearing

[thefirstndsecond]

Attachment 121588

Sept. 24th

No idea where this is coming from. Sounds like more gun control. If you can make the meeting that would be great

[thefirstndsecond]

Attachment 121589

[buxbandit]

I'd be curious to see documentation on their "frequent complaints".

[jthrelf]

I'd be curious to see documentation on their "frequent complaints".

Same person, frequently, is my bet.

[Mr_Gixxer]

Good thing preemption prohibits them from restricting discharge of firearms too.

[Manxdriver]

Good thing preemption prohibits them from restricting discharge of firearms too.

A little more clarification please. Are you saying , oh let’s say, Warminster Township cannot have a law stating ‘ no shooting’? Serious question.

[GunLawyer001]

Good thing preemption prohibits them from restricting discharge of firearms too.

Every word in a statute matters. So "lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth" doesn't mention "discharging" firearms, and there are no cases that I know of at the appellate level holding that a municipality can't bar DISCHARGING firearms within its jurisdiction, with an implicit exception for self-defense (per the justification defense).

The grandfathering clause applicable to pre-existing ranges is an exception to this. And we wouldn't need a grandfathering clause for pre-existing ranges if municipalities couldn't ban discharges of firearms.

The state hunting regs also preempt local rules, meaning that your local tyrants probably can't eliminate you hunting on private land with the consent of the landowner.

Quick, insert "discharging" into the appropriate category below:
- ownership
- possession
- transfer
- transportation

The statute lists 4 categories of "gun-related activities", but omits "use". The rules of statutory construction make that significant. We aren't allowed to gloss over the meanings of the words used.

I'm as sure of this as I'm sure that a non-SOT trust can't legally make a new machinegun. Or that our appellate courts are open to allowing municipalities to bar guns from city-owned property, as long as they use their rights as property owners and not the criminal statutes (see Footnote 9 of the Erie disaster).

[RockIsland]

Same person, frequently, is my bet.

Jersey interlopers. They've been pushing this for a while.

My kid's friend, Woodchuck had enough of them. He sold his farm and moved to Arkansas.

[Royinmontco]

Good thing preemption prohibits them from restricting discharge of firearms too.

Are you sure about that?

[Mr_Gixxer]

Are you sure about that?

Well I'm not a lawyer, but Joshua Prince is and he is sure about it.