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  1. #31
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    And there's another roadblock for this guy. Under normal law and circumstances, he would be able to carry open without a LTCF...which you have to be 21 for.

    However, our Governor keeps imposing this fake fairy tale State of Emergency for pill poppers...so he cannot carry legally.
    He didn't ask about carrying it here. He asked about building it, transporting it to VT, and going to the range while there.
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    The OP should wait. When he becomes an adult he'll want a Sig anyway.
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Amongst all the bluster and opinions, I still have not seen any factual basis to suggest what the OP wants to do is illegal.

    He can legally buy and complete an 80% lower.

    He can legally posses the handgun both here and in VT, so he can legally transport under FOPA.

    He can legally possess AND carry in VT without a permit.

    Is there anyone to suggest that our current SOE would interfere with FOPA when involving an unlicensed individual who is not a prohibited person?
    You are correct, as usual, but the legal path is VERY narrow, and the consequences for straying off the path are severe, and include the permanent lifetime loss of all gun rights.

    If he lives in Philadelphia, he can't even open carry it out the door. He can't drive with it almost anywhere except to the range. If he completes an 80% build, he'll have an un-serialized gun that looks to most cops like an illegal gun (it's not) carried by a kid who can't possibly have an LTCF (which is true). And if he takes it across state lines, he'll have to deal with the cops of other states, like NY, who have little to no respect for the exemptions of FOPA.

    He could inherit a handgun, but most relatives will frown at that request.

    He could be gifted one by a parent or grandparent, but if he fronts them the money, it becomes straw purchase.

    If he were my client (he's not), I'd advise him to wait 3 years. Buying the mags now is good advice. Pay cash.
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Maybe his parents don't own one and they know that buying one just to gift it to him is not legal.
    Umm that's exactly legal

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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Maybe his parents don't own one and they know that buying one just to gift it to him is not legal.
    What is not legal about it?

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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Join the Marines. Go shoot a bunch of guns. When you get out you can buy whatever you want.

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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExFlyinguy View Post
    Umm that's exactly legal
    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    What is not legal about it?
    I guess I stand corrected, I thought you couldn't do that.
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Amongst all the bluster and opinions, I still have not seen any factual basis to suggest what the OP wants to do is illegal.

    He can legally buy and complete an 80% lower.

    He can legally posses the handgun both here and in VT, so he can legally transport under FOPA.

    He can legally possess AND carry in VT without a permit.

    Is there anyone to suggest that our current SOE would interfere with FOPA when involving an unlicensed individual who is not a prohibited person?
    Any reason his parents haven't gifted him a gun already?
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    So I guess the big question is, "What do his parents know that we don't?"

    Why don't his parents give him a gun?
    Yeah that.
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    Default Re: This is 100% legal from what i can see but i want to make sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    I guess I stand corrected, I thought you couldn't do that.
    Technically they can't take his money and buy it for him but thats different from a gift. However your question isn't far off the mark. Maybe the don't own a gun and don't want one in their house.
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