Trump spurns Dems on universal background checks

[Emptymag]

Perhaps if y'all crazy people wouldn't be out there slaughtering poor innocent pumpkins we wouldn't have to worry about our gun rights...

We could be slaughtering those pumpkins with guns equipped with bump stocks except that... well... the president took away your sacred right to keep and bear arms - but just the "plastic, range toys" (for now), so that's OK.

[stainless]

I'm going to wear a Save The Pumpkins shirt to Harrisburg...

[middlefinger]

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If you want to see what we're up aganst go to the comments section in the op

[Hodgie]

Supposedly the President met with Manchin, Toomey, and some other gun grabber senator over the weekend to hammer out some gun law reform and we should be hearing something this week.

My personal opinion if anything the gun show loop hole AKA private sales will be done, I can also see the age limit for semi autos raised to 21.

I don’t think Trump to be so foolish to try a ban, or forced registration before an election. However if he does anything he is going to loose votes where as I don’t see him gaining anything as far as votes if he does.

Take this all with a grain of salt since nothing official has been released.

This is making its way around the interwebs, supposedly it's a leaked memo of the new background check process proposed by Toomey and Manchin.

If this is true which I am not saying it is then I was correct with private sales being gone.

https://www.scribd.com/document/4263...een&from_embed

[Qtrborecrazy]

And again we get NOTHING. Where are all the pro gun congress critters inserting National Conceal Carry?

[KPShooting]

This is making its way around the interwebs, supposedly it's a leaked memo of the new background check process proposed by Toomey and Manchin.

If this is true which I am not saying it is then I was correct with private sales being gone.

https://www.scribd.com/document/4263...een&from_embed

That seems overly complicated. Let's not forget the private party sales was the result of "compromise." And now they want to take that away too. Surely there won't be further gun restrictions in a few years.

Not to mention, the federal government has no business regulating INTRAstate commerce. That's totally a state issue.

[PocketProtector]

Perhaps if y'all crazy people wouldn't be out there slaughtering poor innocent pumpkins we wouldn't have to worry about our gun rights...

Well, they aren't after da crazies, their after their opposition. Gun control is ALWAYS about the opposition

[unclejumbo]

This is making its way around the interwebs, supposedly it's a leaked memo of the new background check process proposed by Toomey and Manchin.

If this is true which I am not saying it is then I was correct with private sales being gone.

https://www.scribd.com/document/4263...een&from_embed

I saw the same and was just looking to see if anyone posted it.

A couple of things have me wondering what the law will be.

First is the definition of commercial sales. We all know there are people out there that are unlicensed gun dealers. I saw one on GB who had hundreds of sales and stated he was not an FFL and if the receiving FFL required...yada, yada, yada. The point being, he was in the gun sales business. He could get jammed up for no having an FFL but I wonder if it applies to this type of individual only. Commercial sales implies business so somebody selling a gun they no longer want wouldn't be a "commercial" sale. That would mean an advertised non-commercial sale would fall outside of the regulation. So, as long as you don't have a side business buying and selling guns illegally without an FFL, then you would be exempt.

What is the civil penalty?

Seems that it might be a paper tiger since no criminal penalty and the "commercial sale" definition.

[PickingPA]

Absolutely they want to ban private sales, because it requires a central registry in order to track and enforce

[57springer]

Absolutely they want to ban private sales, because it requires a central registry in order to track and enforce

Uh huh !!