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September 19th, 2019, 08:47 PM #21Member
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September 19th, 2019, 09:01 PM #22
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September 19th, 2019, 09:34 PM #23
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September 19th, 2019, 10:26 PM #24
Re: Trump spurns Dems on universal background checks
Okay, so every sale needs a background check, such a thing should be easy enough in this day and age with an app. But the Dems can't just agree to that, no, they want to make you a criminal if you lend your firearm to your cousin or brother so he can go hunting. They want to make you a criminal if you let someone just shoot your gun at the range. And on and on and on with one restriction after another.
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September 20th, 2019, 12:35 AM #25Super Member
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Re: Trump spurns Dems on universal background checks
Barr's proposal is still just as inconvenient and intrusive as going to an FFL for every private transaction would be.
More importantly, though, it would still create a registry. It might not be as obvious as other forms, but details of every gun transferred and who it transfers to would still be recorded on the required bill of sale.
Gun info + Disposition info + Legal requirement for maintaining documentation of ownership = Registry
It doesn't matter if the "registry" is distributed or centralized, if the government can compel registration compliance by threatening to impose civil or criminal penalties on those who refuse. It doesn't matter if the transfer "agent" isn't required to keep a copy. Many sellers would opt to have them do just that.
Otherwise, private sellers would be on the hook for the potential misuse of an inanimate object by a third party, even if the third party wasn't a prohibited person at the time of transfer. This proposal would seem to make the material fact that a third party was not prohibited irrelevant--just failing to maintain the required documentation would incur a penalty. Maybe "civil" today and felony tomorrow.
If you as a seller can't produce the bill of sale when they come knocking at your door, you're in for a bad day.
Thus a registry is born.I am not a lawyer.
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September 20th, 2019, 04:04 AM #26
Re: Trump spurns Dems on universal background checks
The Gun is the Badge of a Free Man
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September 20th, 2019, 04:11 AM #27
Re: Trump spurns Dems on universal background checks
So get this. The atf is only allowed to keep jpg of the forms they get. Form gets scanned into pdf. PDF gets converted to jpg. Can only be searched by human eyes. Ha ha. Google has announced the development of A.I. enabled ocr on pictures. It will make those jpegs into instantly searchable database.
The Gun is the Badge of a Free Man
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September 20th, 2019, 04:14 AM #28
Re: Trump spurns Dems on universal background checks
Barr is an anti 2A advocate. Q thinks he’s the bees knees. I think we’re artificially impregnated.
The Gun is the Badge of a Free Man
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September 20th, 2019, 07:36 AM #29
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September 20th, 2019, 09:26 AM #30
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