The 2nd Amendment was created for a reason that is no longer viable

[ideaman]

Remembering the Rodney King riot where the police abandon the peoples to be on their own. The rioters kept away from the Koreans with AR's w/ capacity mags.
That says it all.

[SevenMilePete]

I would like you guys to read it and comment on this. This is the URl: https://truthout.org/articles/how-th...standing-army/

I shorten with Tiny URL to: https://tinyurl.com/y8kk2zvu

But..... you have to read the ENTIRE Second Amendment. Not just bits and pieces. :-)

[Defender]

If this article had any merit, the 2nd Amendment would read "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

But it specifically says people in the operative clause. That means the right of the citizenry, the PEOPLE, to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

And who is the "militia"? Title X of the U.S. Code explains tells us who the militia is.

[ditch]

succinct history but the conclusion is in error.
they reason because we have a standing army and a federally controlled "state" armies, the militia is outdated; but nothing in those actions changed the fact of the militia, 2A, congressional authority over arms, or the rules for calling the militia.

as free pointed out, the 2A is irrelevant to our rights to arms.
it existed before the constitution and were not relinquished by the constitution, so they still exist in the people (10A)

this does point out the danger of framing gun rights as 2A rights though.

[ROCK-IT3]

Well.....here is the thing.........2A doesn't really matter.

Nowhere in COTUS is it spelled out that the Federal Government has the power to disarm the people, prevent the people from arming themselves, prohibit self-defense, etc. Since these powers are not enumerated, AND since it is commonly understood that the people HAD these powers when the document was created, it is pretty clear that EVEN WITHOUT 2A:

• The Federal Govt has no enumerated power to disarm the people
• The people have the right to arm themselves

Therefore, the author of this study, and all of his little friends, buddies, cohorts, admirers, butt buddies and so forth, can all go fuck themselves.

How about that?

^^^ This is why we tolerate all of your contrarianism around here. Every so often you nail it. The 2nd Amendment only recognizes (and guarantees to citizens of the U.S.) what existed as a natural right throughout human history.

[free]

^^^ This is why we tolerate all of your contrarianism around here. Every so often you nail it. The 2nd Amendment only recognizes (and guarantees to citizens of the U.S.) what existed as a natural right throughout human history.

Ut Prosim.

[Coops]

It does not matter if the amendment is outdated. It is still on the books and must be defended by all who take the oath. If they think its not needed anymore then repeal it. Until then it is part of the basic framework around which laws are found to be constitutional or not.

[Handyandy]

DGAF. Author should lead the stack. See how that works out.

[stainless]

I personally prefer to quote Article 1 Section 21 of the Constitution of Pennsylvania. No need to argue about the defination of Milita.

[TonyF]

Heller + Miller = tough luck Beto.