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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Its not the lpk that makes it one or the other. Its the attachment of the upper and whats on or not on the buffer tube. Rifles have stocks and non nfa have barrel length of atleast 16 inches. Pistols don't have stocks and are less than 26 inches oal.

    Take this with a grain of salt as I am not a lawyer and I don't have perfect recall.

    Over 26 vpg ok under no go unless sbr.
    My mention of "LPK" only had to do with showing that it's never been used - period.
    If you install a LPK and remove it, I'm pretty sure there will be some marks left - even if it's not used.
    Simply some photographic "evidence" that I started the pistol using a virgin/never built into "anything" lower.
    Photo of virgin lower, then photo of it as a finished pistol.
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    Jesus. Just order the lower receiver, pick it up at your FFL and build it as a pistol first and don't worry about it.
    Just make sure your FFL knows it's "other". If they hassle you and want to transfer it as a firearm just ask them WTF are going to put down on the form for barrel length!
    Last edited by Hawk; September 14th, 2019 at 07:32 AM.
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    I have had a dealer try to sell me a brand new receiver like it was a pistol once...

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    Last edited by :-); September 14th, 2019 at 08:28 AM.

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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    ***THREAD HIJACK NOTICE***

    If a raw lower is built initially as a pistol, then changed to a rifle configuration, can ownership be transfered as a rifle or must it be transferred through a FFL as a pistol to be legal?

    Thank you.
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    great... now I want to build an ar.
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    Quote Originally Posted by jakebrake View Post
    great... now I want to build an ar.
    Je$u$. WTF are you waiting for???
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    I haven't bought an AR15 in years, I build everything. Nothing like buying a complete rifle made with basic everyday parts and throwing money away changing the barrel, handguards, stock, bolt, buffer, grip, trigger guard, bolt release, etc.

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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    Quote Originally Posted by :-) View Post
    I haven't bought an AR15 in years, I build everything. Nothing like buying a complete rifle made with basic everyday parts and throwing money away changing the barrel, handguards, stock, bolt, buffer, grip, trigger guard, bolt release, etc.
    BEST video EVER on this very topic!
    (it's dated, so prices mentioned aren't current, but the point is still the same)




    sorry for off topic post. Consider it "Educational".
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    Quote Originally Posted by eatmydust View Post
    ***THREAD HIJACK NOTICE***

    If a raw lower is built initially as a pistol, then changed to a rifle configuration, can ownership be transfered as a rifle or must it be transferred through a FFL as a pistol to be legal?

    Thank you.
    I can think of no reason why it has to be "transferred" at all.
    It's a rifle. You don't need to do a FFL transfer for rifles.

    But even if you WANT to sell it to someone and do the FFL transfer, it's a rifle now, and once transferred it must always remain in rifle form.
    It came to you as an "other" - not a rifle - not a pistol - it was just an "other" until you made it into something.
    I can't see how making it into a pistol first has any bearing on what happens to it after you change it into a rifle and THEN decide to sell it.


    EDIT:

    Read THIS POST. This is the man with the answers you seek. Ha.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.ph...28#post4051028
    Last edited by Emptymag; September 14th, 2019 at 11:00 AM.
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    Default Re: Requirements when ordering a stripped lower receiver for a pistol build.

    Thanks EM, that saves me from copying and pasting to this thread
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