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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Does anyone have access to a list of the 7 who haven't co-signed?

    These are the people to focus on with correspondence THANKING them for not jumping on the bandwagon.

    A conciliatory tone would be good. Something like "We share your concerns about the (still rare, but) increasing frequency of true, random mass shootings (not to be confused with gang/drug activity, which is predictable criminal behavior). But we also believe that the proposed legistlation to enact a AWB, limit magazine capacity, and limit lawful, private sales, will not have the desired effect and will cause more problems and limit individual liberties beyond that which is envisioned. As such, thank you for your reasoned response in not co-sponsoring/endorsing this legislation."
    "How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessnes."

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    I do think the senate will pass as extended background check bill and Trump will probably sign it into law.
    I think that this is very likely, too.

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    Does anyone have access to a list of the 7 who haven't co-signed?

    These are the people to focus on with correspondence THANKING them for not jumping on the bandwagon.

    A conciliatory tone would be good. Something like "We share your concerns about the (still rare, but) increasing frequency of true, random mass shootings (not to be confused with gang/drug activity, which is predictable criminal behavior). But we also believe that the proposed legistlation to enact a AWB, limit magazine capacity, and limit lawful, private sales, will not have the desired effect and will cause more problems and limit individual liberties beyond that which is envisioned. As such, thank you for your reasoned response in not co-sponsoring/endorsing this legislation."
    ^^^

    This is a good approach. The Dems will be trying to persuade them to cross over to the dark side, we should be showing them support and appreciation to justify their resistance

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post

    I do think the senate will pass as extended background check bill and Trump will probably sign it into law.
    Quote Originally Posted by Royinmontco View Post
    I think that this is very likely, too.
    We should know soon. I don’t think he will support background checks. Between Senators like Rand Paul and the NRA, I think Trump will say no. (Hopefully they override the insidious whispers of people like Toomey)

    If he does wind up giving an inch I think it will be for red flag laws.
    Proof Armed citizens make a difference. http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=316012

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    We should know soon. I don’t think he will support background checks. Between Senators like Rand Paul and the NRA, I think Trump will say no. (Hopefully they override the insidious whispers of people like Toomey)

    If he does wind up giving an inch I think it will be for red flag laws.
    I'm thinking that the dreaded "gun show loop hole" is going to be tied up especially since they can tie a private purchase directly to the last mass shooting and the shooter who was denied by NICS.

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by Royinmontco View Post
    Plus the senate, plus the president. Its a little more than just 7 house votes.
    Think of all the cold, dead hands......

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    Does anyone have access to a list of the 7 who haven't co-signed?

    These are the people to focus on with correspondence THANKING them for not jumping on the bandwagon.

    A conciliatory tone would be good. Something like "We share your concerns about the (still rare, but) increasing frequency of true, random mass shootings (not to be confused with gang/drug activity, which is predictable criminal behavior). But we also believe that the proposed legistlation to enact a AWB, limit magazine capacity, and limit lawful, private sales, will not have the desired effect and will cause more problems and limit individual liberties beyond that which is envisioned. As such, thank you for your reasoned response in not co-sponsoring/endorsing this legislation."

    There are more than 7 who did not vote, they just NEED 7 more votes to "have enough".

    It took a while but I compared the HR1296 cosponsor list to the House roster to see who has not yet voted.

    List of 31 Dems who have not yet voted:
    Bishop Jr., Sanford D. Georgia 2nd D (202) 225-3631
    Brindisi, Anthony New York 22nd D (202) 225-3665
    Bustos, Cheri Illinois 17th D (202) 225-5905
    Brindisi, Anthony New York 22nd D (202) 225-3665
    Bustos, Cheri Illinois 17th D (202) 225-5905
    Cicilline, David Rhode Island 1st D (202) 225-4911
    Cuellar, Henry Texas 28th D (202) 225-1640
    Cunningham, Joe South Carolina 1st D (202) 225-3176
    Davids, Sharice Kansas 3rd D (202) 225-2865
    DeFazio, Peter Oregon 4th D (202) 225-6416
    Fletcher, Lizzie Texas 7th D (202) 225-2571
    Golden, Jared Maine 2nd D (202) 225-6306
    Gonzalez, Vicente Texas 15th D (202) 225-2531
    Horn, Kendra Oklahoma 5th D (202) 225-2132
    Kim, Andy New Jersey 3rd D (202) 225-4765
    Kind, Ron Wisconsin 3rd D (202) 225-5506
    McAdams, Ben Utah 4th D (202) 225-3011
    O'Halleran, Tom Arizona 1st D (202) 225-3361
    Pelosi, Nancy California 12th D (202) 225-4965
    Perlmutter, Ed Colorado 7th D (202) 225-2645
    Peterson, Collin C. Minnesota 7th D (202) 225-2165
    Plaskett, Stacey Virgin Islands Delegate D (202) 225-1790
    San Nicolas, Michael F. Q. Guam Delegate D (202) 225-1188
    Schrader, Kurt Oregon 5th D (202) 225-5711
    Sewell, Terri A. Alabama 7th D (202) 225-2665
    Slotkin, Elissa Michigan 8th D (202) 225-4872
    Thompson, Mike California 5th D (202) 225-3311
    Torres Small, Xochitl New Mexico 2nd D (202) 225-2365
    Underwood, Lauren Illinois 14th D (202) 225-2976
    Van Drew, Jefferson New Jersey 2nd D (202) 225-6572
    Vela, Filemon Texas 34th D (202) 225-9901




    ALL PA DEMOCRAT REPS VOTED YES: Call them to reprimand!
    Boyle, Brendan Pennsylvania 2nd D (202) 225-6111
    Cartwright, Matt Pennsylvania 8th D (202) 225-5546
    Dean, Madeleine Pennsylvania 4th D (202) 225-4731
    Doyle, Michael Pennsylvania 18th D (202) 225-2135
    Evans, Dwight Pennsylvania 3rd D (202) 225-4001
    Houlahan, Chrissy Pennsylvania 6th D (202) 225-4315
    Lamb, Conor Pennsylvania 17th D (202) 225-2301
    Scanlon, Mary Gay Pennsylvania 5th D (202) 225-2011
    Wild, Susan Pennsylvania 7th D (202) 225-6411



    My sources

    HR 1296 cosponsor list:
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...ratic%22%5D%7D


    House roster:
    https://www.house.gov/representatives



    Link to see PDF of my excel file. Has contact info for full House as well.
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc21/1...-pdf-514k?da=y
    Psalms 73:26

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    210 Democrat cosponsors.

    1 Republican...Peter King from NY.
    Psalms 73:26

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Well done sir

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    Default Re: Dems are 7 votes short of AWB

    Those 31 are the ones to put pressure on...except Nancy...she can't read anymore.
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