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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I doubt that actually downloading the App violates ITAR. Anyone in the world should be able to download it. Just because someone did, doesn't mean they actually own the scope in question.
    It provides them a list to compare to their other lists

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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    They will use this data to coincide and cross reference with the "deleted" NICS data.
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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Quote Originally Posted by PickingPA View Post
    It provides them a list to compare to their other lists
    Ding!


    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    They will use this data to coincide and cross reference with the "deleted" NICS data.
    Ding!


    Quote Originally Posted by GOYABEAN View Post
    Low hanging fruit theory
    Ding!


    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I doubt that actually downloading the App violates ITAR. Anyone in the world should be able to download it. Just because someone did, doesn't mean they actually own the scope in question.
    Ding!


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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Quote Originally Posted by PickingPA View Post
    It provides them a list to compare to their other lists
    I'm already on the San Francisco terrorist list, 'showed up to rally in Pittsburgh' list, 'buys ammo by the case' list, 'stores diesel fuel' list, and the 'posts conservative memes too much' list, I may as well download the app and get on this list too
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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Abolish ICE !!!!@

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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Quote Originally Posted by Jhaydeno View Post
    I'm already on the San Francisco terrorist list, 'showed up to rally in Pittsburgh' list, 'buys ammo by the case' list, 'stores diesel fuel' list, and the 'posts conservative memes too much' list, I may as well download the app and get on this list too
    Itís the Hoover Vacuum method....suck up all the data they can and cross reference

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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    It would be a shame if tens of thousands MORE firearm owners went and downloaded the app. You don't have to have the scope to download the app. It might clog up the works for the FEDS...

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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I doubt that actually downloading the App violates ITAR. Anyone in the world should be able to download it. Just because someone did, doesn't mean they actually own the scope in question.
    You'd think if their concern was foreign owners of the scope they'd only be interested in the data of people who downloaded the app in other countries.
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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    You cannot ship ANYTHING that is ''intended for use on any type of weapon'' outside CONUS without prior State Dept approval. I worked for BAE , a major defense contractor , we had ITARS training probably twice a year.

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    Default Re: feds warrant on 10,000 rifle scope app users

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    You'd think if their concern was foreign owners of the scope they'd only be interested in the data of people who downloaded the app in other countries.
    The question is, who commits the ITAR violation? The person buying, or the person shipping? I'd think the person shipping has more responsibility to ensure they're in compliance than any random person across the planet.
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