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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Banks View Post
    One of them appeared to be an assault rifle... The horror
    Don't forget about the assault mercury!

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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    So, this 72 year old guy is depressed and alone (I see no mention of anyone living with him), and to fix that, his family has the po-po seize him, commit him,. steal all his guns, GRATUITOUSLY notify the world that he had this stuff in his house and nobody's home to protect whatever the police didn't steal, and make him a prohibited person because of the 302 commitment.

    This is why people hate their families.

    And cops. It's why people hate cops.

    There's no legitimate purpose served by the police shedding public light on his private matters. None. I would love to be in a position to take these meddling SJW's and have the cops go through their computers and browsing history, and gratuitously share whatever is found, like "midget wrestling porn" or "repeated searches for pics of fresh corpses" or whatever they wanted to keep private.

    Grenade hulls are not grenades. It's simply a lie to claim that they found "grenades". And it serves no bona fide police function to put that in a press release. Or to announce that they took a citizen off for mental evaluation; there's a reason why that kind of medical info is supposed to be confidential, you fucking morons.

    Some days, it seems like cops are paid to gather up privately owned guns and arrange them on folding tables for anti-gun media to take photos. And that most Chiefs and Mayors believe that all citizens exist to fund the govt and to be used for PR purposes.

    Maybe if cop administrators acted as though they were real public servants, fewer cops would get shot in the face on the streets. That's just my thinking, but I bet a whole lot of Philly beat cops agree with me.
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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    So, this 72 year old guy is depressed and alone (I see no mention of anyone living with him), and to fix that, his family has the po-po seize him, commit him,. steal all his guns, GRATUITOUSLY notify the world that he had this stuff in his house and nobody's home to protect whatever the police didn't steal, and make him a prohibited person because of the 302 commitment.

    This is why people hate their families.

    And cops. It's why people hate cops.

    There's no legitimate purpose served by the police shedding public light on his private matters. None. I would love to be in a position to take these meddling SJW's and have the cops go through their computers and browsing history, and gratuitously share whatever is found, like "midget wrestling porn" or "repeated searches for pics of fresh corpses" or whatever they wanted to keep private.

    Grenade hulls are not grenades. It's simply a lie to claim that they found "grenades". And it serves no bona fide police function to put that in a press release. Or to announce that they took a citizen off for mental evaluation; there's a reason why that kind of medical info is supposed to be confidential, you fucking morons.

    Some days, it seems like cops are paid to gather up privately owned guns and arrange them on folding tables for anti-gun media to take photos. And that most Chiefs and Mayors believe that all citizens exist to fund the govt and to be used for PR purposes.

    Maybe if cop administrators acted as though they were real public servants, fewer cops would get shot in the face on the streets. That's just my thinking, but I bet a whole lot of Philly beat cops agree with me.
    Yes. When I read this article, I feared that his family may be overstepping. Sometimes families interpret "I can't live like this" as having current suicidal ideation with method and intent. I fear that this may be the new trend, where the rights of gun owners, or even wartime relic collectors in this case, get their rights infringed upon more so than others.

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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    The family gets to take over his finances and bleed him dry.

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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    inert grenades and liquid mercury... wtf? people buy those for the kids and when i was a kid we still played with liquid mercury when we broke it free from stuff.

    when you own inert grenades, a welder, powders and safety fuse, is that now constructive intent?
    If that’s the case, we better get rid of the PVC cutoff scraps and keep less than a pound of nails and screws in the shop! You know, for the kids...
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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    If you have packing peanuts and gasoline you're on constructive possession of napalm.
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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jhaydeno View Post
    If that’s the case, we better get rid of the PVC cutoff scraps and keep less than a pound of nails and screws in the shop! You know, for the kids...
    nuts, bolts, washers, all those little odds and ends you never know you might need, like the little track shelving pins and brackets.
    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    If you have packing peanuts and gasoline you're on constructive possession of napalm.
    acetone, laquor thinner, carb cleaner. a whole variety of things will melt it
    both of these are exactly my point and i can't say what i can't say but you'd love my basement, never you mind the well though, that is for a different thread.
    i'll actually be getting my own welder shortly, lot of small repair projects need to be done. haven't done it in years though.
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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Did you miss the part about the suicide note?
    Did the Police confirm that he wrote it?
    What did it say?
    How did the family get it or know about it? Where did they find it?
    If it was a close family why didn't family member try to communicate with the man and find out what is going on?

    The story seem to sensationalized on what he had in his crawl space and not enough on the aforementioned details.

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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    So, this 72 year old guy is depressed and alone (I see no mention of anyone living with him), and to fix that, his family has the po-po seize him, commit him,. steal all his guns, GRATUITOUSLY notify the world that he had this stuff in his house and nobody's home to protect whatever the police didn't steal, and make him a prohibited person because of the 302 commitment.

    This is why people hate their families.

    And cops. It's why people hate cops.

    There's no legitimate purpose served by the police shedding public light on his private matters. None. I would love to be in a position to take these meddling SJW's and have the cops go through their computers and browsing history, and gratuitously share whatever is found, like "midget wrestling porn" or "repeated searches for pics of fresh corpses" or whatever they wanted to keep private.

    Grenade hulls are not grenades. It's simply a lie to claim that they found "grenades". And it serves no bona fide police function to put that in a press release. Or to announce that they took a citizen off for mental evaluation; there's a reason why that kind of medical info is supposed to be confidential, you fucking morons.

    Some days, it seems like cops are paid to gather up privately owned guns and arrange them on folding tables for anti-gun media to take photos. And that most Chiefs and Mayors believe that all citizens exist to fund the govt and to be used for PR purposes.

    Maybe if cop administrators acted as though they were real public servants, fewer cops would get shot in the face on the streets. That's just my thinking, but I bet a whole lot of Philly beat cops agree with me.
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    Default Re: Phila. Police seize 50 guns from old man- no Red Flags laws needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Golf View Post
    As of 4pm, no charges have been filed.

    https://6abc.com/more-than-50-guns-g...-home/5499831/

    More than 50 guns, grenades, pipe bomb, liquid mercury found inside Philadelphia home
    PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- Danny Kravitz says things are usually pretty uneventful in his neighborhood in the Bustleton section of Northeast Philadelphia.

    "It's a very quiet neighborhood," said Kravitz "You never have any trouble."

    But there seemed to be big trouble on Wednesday night, as police blocked off the 9700 block of Northeast Avenue. Neighbors like Kravitz wondered what was going on. It didn't take them long to find out that police had found a cache of weapons in the house just down the street.

    "They found more and more weapons throughout the house," said Chief Inspector Scott Small. "In the basement, every room, the attic, crawlspace, living room, dining room, bedrooms."

    Chopper 6 was overhead as officers began removing guns from the home.

    Investigators found more than 50 guns. One of them appeared to be an assault rifle. Police also found what appeared to be a pipe bomb, 1,000 rounds of ammunition, a jar of liquid mercury and ten grenades. All of the grenades inert, meaning that they did not contain explosive mechanisms.

    Philadelphia's Acting Police Commissioner says officers discovered the *reason why the man had so many weapons.

    "It appears that he could have been a broker or dealer of guns in the past," said Christine Coulter, acting Philadelphia Police commissioner. "I don't think it's a nefarious situation that the guns were there."

    Officers came to the house after the family of the 72year old man who lives there called police at about 4:30 pm saying they'd found a suicide note. The family was worried about the man's mental state.

    "I'm grateful for the family member that step forward and said there could be a problem here looking out for his father's interest," said Coulter.

    The man went to the hospital for a mental evaluation as officers complied with the family's request- to take the guns for safekeeping.

    Police were at the home for more than seven hours.

    The guns are in the hands of the police department's Forearms Identification Unit. They'll run the serial numbers on the guns to make sure none of them had been stolen or used to commit a crime.

    Now that neighbors do know what was inside, they're glad police did get that call to the unassuming house right down the street.

    "Thank God for that," said Kravitz. "Thank God."
    OMG Why did they even mention the grenades, which are nothing more than paperweights? It's a good thing they didn't find any toy machine guns or bazookas. The whole neighborhood would be shut down for weeks.

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