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    Hey Guys,

    Another dumb question from the peanut gallery..... I just traded a couple of rifles for one of Tanner's $399 Kel-Tec
    CMR-30s! It is a neat little carbine...... But man... Would this be a honey with a telescopic pistol brace and a barrel cut and threaded just forward of the rail...(I can't believe Kel-Tec isn't selling them that way as pistols!). I have heared this thing called a poor man's P-90..... And I am tempted to SBR it on a Form 1.... But at a year plus for approval.... I'm not sure it is worth the hassle....

    I don't suppose there is a way to (legally) register this as a pistol and adapt one of the existing telescopic braces to
    Have the short treated barrel..... ( I have a .22 can that Elite Iron rebuilt a few years back with stainless baffles....
    That I might risk .22 magnums through)

    I have a feeling there is no way of doing it without going the SBR route.... But figured I'd ask!
    Thanks!
    F.
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    Big whoop, I'm spooning a Barret .50 Cal...... I could like kill a building.....

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    This is what I got!
    Last edited by 1096369fred; August 26th, 2019 at 05:10 PM.
    A Templar is truly a fearless knight, and secure on every side, for his soul is protected by the armor of faith, just as his body is protected by the armor of steel.
    Big whoop, I'm spooning a Barret .50 Cal...... I could like kill a building.....

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    This is along the lines of what I want to do.... But with a brace..... And lord knows... No vertical front grip.... That would be wrong!




    It really strikes me as a poor man's H&K MP-7.... Which is unobtainium! Because Vee are HK und vee hate you!
    Last edited by 1096369fred; September 3rd, 2019 at 10:16 AM.
    A Templar is truly a fearless knight, and secure on every side, for his soul is protected by the armor of faith, just as his body is protected by the armor of steel.
    Big whoop, I'm spooning a Barret .50 Cal...... I could like kill a building.....

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    Form 1 rifle isnít a year. I love when people say itís the wait. If you want it bad enough youíll do it

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    Default Re: Once a rifle???

    Quote Originally Posted by 1096369fred View Post
    This is along the lines of what I want to do.... But with a brace..... And lord knows... No vertical front grip.... That would be wrong!




    It really strikes me as a poor man's H&K MP-7.... Which is unobtainium! Because Vee are HK und vee hate you!
    Go short barrel with a pinned/welded suppressor long enough to just have 16" of total 'barrel'.

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    Default Re: Once a rifle???

    Quote Originally Posted by 1096369fred View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Another dumb question from the peanut gallery..... I just traded a couple of rifles for one of Tanner's $399 Kel-Tec
    CMR-30s! It is a neat little carbine...... But man... Would this be a honey with a telescopic pistol brace and a barrel cut and threaded just forward of the rail...(I can't believe Kel-Tec isn't selling them that way as pistols!). I have heared this thing called a poor man's P-90..... And I am tempted to SBR it on a Form 1.... But at a year plus for approval.... I'm not sure it is worth the hassle....

    I don't suppose there is a way to (legally) register this as a pistol and adapt one of the existing telescopic braces to
    Have the short treated barrel..... ( I have a .22 can that Elite Iron rebuilt a few years back with stainless baffles....
    That I might risk .22 magnums through)

    I have a feeling there is no way of doing it without going the SBR route.... But figured I'd ask!
    Thanks!
    F.
    If you e-file, Form 1s are being approved in an average of 21 days. The ATF emails you the tax stamp.

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    Default Re: Once a rifle???

    21 days.... No kidding..... That changes the arithmetic quite a bit..... I Form 4'd a suppressor in early December (2018) still
    Waiting on approval.... So I assumed the wait was the same for form 1's.....

    This may just be worth making it happen!

    Thanks!
    Fred
    A Templar is truly a fearless knight, and secure on every side, for his soul is protected by the armor of faith, just as his body is protected by the armor of steel.
    Big whoop, I'm spooning a Barret .50 Cal...... I could like kill a building.....

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    Default Re: Once a rifle???

    Quote Originally Posted by 1096369fred View Post
    21 days.... No kidding..... That changes the arithmetic quite a bit..... I Form 4'd a suppressor in early December (2018) still
    Waiting on approval.... So I assumed the wait was the same for form 1's.....

    This may just be worth making it happen!

    Thanks!
    Fred
    Efile is the key, paper forms take longer. But no it can never be a pistol legally. Now if you were to buy one that had been demilled you could build the parts into whatever you want.

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    Default Re: Once a rifle???

    Go to The Bunker gun shop. Your going to need your Email, they will do the fingerprints and photos...
    Then
    Go to here https://laserworxonline.com/ to get it engraved.
    They will do it while you wait. (You have to get it engraved.)

    Wait for your stamp in your Email and print it out.
    Last edited by :-); September 7th, 2019 at 10:36 PM.

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    Default Re: Once a rifle???

    My E-File Form 1 I think was 22 or 23 business days and even then there was a holiday (4th of July) in there to delay it. Total days I think was like low 30's but you really can't count the weekend.

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