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    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    Bump stocks are a useless gadget, is that the hill want to fight for or is it that you just don't like Trump.

    If you want to play Rambo rent or buy a real machine gun.
    You really have no idea how this works.

    You are speaking fudd speak.

    You actually don’t see a problem with a stock being classified as a machine gun.

    A device not necessary to bump firing.

    What stops them from classifying semi autos as machine guns?

    Your statement about playing Rambo is a tactic of socialism and the technique of belittling your opponents.

    You are transparent and of no use in the cause for liberty.

    You should look for the nearest gun buy back. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    Of course, you are misinformed. Obama enacted the Executive order to deny Social Security and VA recipients that needed help doing their Federal taxes or filling out forms to buy firearms unless they could prove they were competent. This in effect was turning our legal system on it's head because you were deemed guilty until you could prove your innocence. Trump overturned that order in his first year of office. I wish people were could be more informed before writing things that make them look uniformed on a gun related forum. Being uniformed makes the rest of us look as though we are just as misinformed and the errant words are copied and pasted to be laughed at by even leftists that are informed.

    Obama's ATF approved the sale of bumpstocks through regulation interpretation Trump's ATF reversed that interpretation. It's a clear case of whatever the government gives you they can take it away. The case reversing that regulation interpretation was turned down by the US Supreme Court and let the decision stand, end of case.

    If you want your bumpstock back you can change the law through Congress. Write to your Congress person and tell them to pass legislation allowing bumpstocks. Well, that used to be the way legislation was done but now the Congress people understand the gun owners no longer come out to vote for even their own Supreme Court picks why would they bother listening to gun owners. Who's fault is that?
    I apologize for my lapse regarding first bold.

    Ok, Trump's ATF reversed the bump stock interpretation. Do you believe that would have happened if Trump (and the NRA) had left it alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    I apologize for my lapse regarding first bold.

    Ok, Trump's ATF reversed the bump stock interpretation. Do you believe that would have happened if Trump (and the NRA) had left it alone?
    If there was someone other than Trump at the helm at that time it would have been Hilary Clinton and bump stock rule interpretation would be one of the least of our concerns. The way things happen is because of the perception of the public, the projection of power and application of money. If you have two out of those three things going against you then you have to act. This is how politics works and why I get so pissed when I see the measly turnouts during elections. Gun owners have lost their projection of power, we are on the borderline of public perception and the application of money has fallen. When you understand this is how things operate at it most basic level then you can understand why things go the way they do. The US Constitution has nothing to do with how politics work at this time in our Republic because through the projection of power and the application of money Supreme Courts can change the way the words of that old document written by racist white guys are interpreted and applied.

    It has always been about power and money once the dust of the approval of the Constitution had settled. This is how humans work. Popular opinion has always been a wildcard and all sides try their best best to manipulate it to gain the upper hand. Hence, white supremacist, white nationalist, racist, nazi, fascist day in and day out 24 hours a day 7 days a week. The media has done it's level best to demonize the NRA using Bloomberg and other big money donors and for the most they have succeeded because they know even gun owners don't understand about the three principles of ruling. The gun grabbers already have the money side covered and need only to sway public opinion because the power side at the Supreme Court isn't a sure thing. Bumpstocks was nothing but a sideshow to maintain public opinion. These same three principles have been used as a way to rule since one man decided he needs to rule over all the other men. The human condition will never change and hasn't changed since they magically and abruptly stopped being monkeys.
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    People seem to forget Hillary. I know gun people who swear Trump is the anti gun devil. But I'm also pretty sure they also voted for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    My feelings for Trump are irrelevant. (I did vote for him.) I never owned a bump-stock, but it's the slippery slope, getting more slippery because of people like you. Giving a little more every once in a while because it doesn't apply to you. What is your hill? Binary triggers? Magazine capacity? Semi-autos?




    Exactly. Let's face it. Obama got no federal anti-gun gains. Trump did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    You really have no idea how this works.

    You are speaking fudd speak.

    You actually don’t see a problem with a stock being classified as a machine gun.

    A device not necessary to bump firing.

    What stops them from classifying semi autos as machine guns?

    Your statement about playing Rambo is a tactic of socialism and the technique of belittling your opponents.

    You are transparent and of no use in the cause for liberty.

    You should look for the nearest gun buy back. Just my opinion.
    ^^^ THIS ! ^^^
    Pro gun people (aka FUDD) don't understand issue with; nor care about; bump-stock ban.
    Pro 2A people fully understand the bump-stock issue.
    --ET

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    To quote Donald Trump, "It's a slippery slope".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    To quote Donald Trump, "It's a slippery slope".
    The big question is: Where is he on that slope?

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