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    Quote Originally Posted by PaLonehunter View Post
    I have a 1911 Colt Government .45 with original US Army leather holster and 1 clip, manufactured in 1912, it seems to be in decent shape it was stored in a plastic bag at my in-laws house. I know nothing about handguns btw.
    Well, I can say that it wasn't made in 1912 as it has a patent date of 1913 on the slide. Also, the grips don't seem to match a gun that would be that old.

    Are there any other markings on it? Any other numbers?

    Also, for the more knowledgeable 1911 folks, wouldn't it have been parkerized? The "wear" marks don't seem to be correct if it would have been parkerized.
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    Default Re: what is value of 1911 Colt Government .45

    From the pictures you have a nice historic piece, but it was not made in 1912, since it has a 1913 patent date on the slide. Are there any markings on the magazine (not clip).
    Here is some info that might be helpful: from http://sightm1911.com/1911Production.htm

    1911 .45 ACP Production Information Military Versions from 1912 to 1919.
    Manufacturer/Serial Number/Date Made

    Beginning of M1911:

    1) Colt: S/N 1 to 3190 = April 16, 1912 to May 31, 1912

    2) Colt: S/N 3190 to 7501 = May 31, 1912 to Oct. 10, 1912

    (S/N 3501 to 3799 were first U.S.M.C. pistols made by Colt delivered June 6, 1912.)

    3) Colt: S/N 7501 to (approximately) 20,000 = Oct. 10, 1912 to Jan. 1913

    4) Colt: S/N (approx.) 20,000 to 83,856 = Jan. 1913 to Aug. 19, 1913

    S/N 38,001 to 43,900 Navy Model (USS New York) = March 9, 1912 to March 5, 1915
    S/N 43,901 to 44,000 Navy Model (USS Texas) = March 9, 1912 to March 5, 1915
    S/N 36,401 to 37,650 U.S.M.C. Model made by Colt = July 9, 1913

    5) Colt: S/N 83,856 to 89,801 = Aug. 19, 1913 to July 20, 1914

    (S/N 83,901 to 84,400 U.S.M.C. Model = May 12, 1914)

    6) Colt: S/N 89,801 to 108,601 = July 20, 1914 to Feb. 8, 1915

    (S/N 96,001 to 97,537 Navy Model (U.S. Navy Yard, Brooklyn, N.Y.) = March 9, 1912 to March 5, 1915)

    7) Colt: S/N 108,601 to 290,000 = Feb. 8, 1915 to May, 1918

    (S/N 109,501 to 110,000 Navy Model, S/N 223,953 to 223,991 Navy Model, S/N 232,001 to 233,600 Navy Model)
    (S/N 151,187 to 151,986 U.S.M.C. Model, S/N 185,801 to 186,201 U.S.M.C. Model, S/N 209,587 to 210,386 U.S.M.C. Model, S/N 215,387 to 217,386 U.S.M.C. Model)

    8) Colt/Springfield: S/N 128,617 to 133,186 = 1916 to 1924 ( These models are very hard to properly identify)

    9) Colt: S/N 290,000 to 450,000 = May, 1918 to Oct. 24, 1918

    10) Colt: S/N 450,000 to 629,500 = Oct. 24, 1918 to April 10, 1919

    11) Springfield Armory: S/N 72,571 to 133,186 = April 1914 to April, 1917

    12) Remington-UMC: S/N 1 to 15,000 = Aug. 10, 1918 to May 24, 1919

    13) Remington-UMC: S/N 15,000 to 21,676 = Aug. 10, 1918 to May 24, 1919
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    Some of the most knowledgeable 1911 collectors hang out here. https://forums.1911forum.com/

    In my humble opinion that pistol looks 100% righteous.
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    ok thanks it looks like 1913 according to serial number 4834**

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    Default Re: what is value of 1911 Colt Government .45

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    In my humble opinion that pistol looks 100% righteous.
    One of the few times I disagree with you. IMO, it's very doubtful that's the original finish.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaLonehunter View Post
    ok thanks it looks like 1913 according to serial number 4834**
    If that's a 6-digit SN, it would have been made around Oct/Nov 1918 and would have had the rougher and somewhat fragile "black army" finish which could flake off, but I don't think that's what this gun has. Looks more like crudely-applied stove paint like the British suncorite. I could be wrong but would need more pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebearpack View Post
    One of the few times I disagree with you. IMO, it's very doubtful that's the original finish.



    If that's a 6-digit SN, it would have been made around Oct/Nov 1918 and would have had the rougher and somewhat fragile "black army" finish which could flake off, but I don't think that's what this gun has. Looks more like crudely-applied stove paint like the British suncorite. I could be wrong but would need more pics.
    Black Army is what I was thinking. This finish is not very durable and takes on wear marks just like the one pictured.
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