So who else is a libertarian?

[icp4life162005]

almost all federal legislation we see today is unconstitutional.
a few from the top of my head, they have no authority to regulate marriage, guns, drugs, alcohol, tobacco.
...it'd be easier to list what they actually have authority over.

Heres a big bullshit one, taxes.

[ditch]

almost all federal legislation we see today is unconstitutional.
a few from the top of my head, they have no authority to regulate marriage, guns, drugs, alcohol, tobacco.
...it'd be easier to list what they actually have authority over.

Very few of us know this anymore, so we fight about which criminal is the best.

[fallenleader]

Heres a big bullshit one, taxes.

they have some authority over taxation just no authority to tax income.

[icp4life162005]

they have some authority over taxation just no authority to tax income.

Im talking every borough, township, county, state, then federal all overlapping and stacked is absurd, plus sales tax on top of all of that too. This concept of drawing arbitrary lines on a map then declaring the right to tax at will with no recourse is bullshit.

[icp4life162005]

More and more layers of bullshit unneeded government picking at our pockets like vultures.


Why do i need permits and to pay taxes for permission to plant a garden, compost my dogs poop, replace a broken window, paint, put up a fence, get chickens, move or even put up a tin shed, repair my driveway in any way as it attaches to the main road, build a greenhouse, install a single solar panel for extra light in my shed, etc.

These are all permits that are required, along with payment and inspection in my township. A township that was created out of thin air likely through gerrymandering, bureaucracy creating bureaucracy to drive the need for increased taxation and control.

[JAKIII]

I voted Perot and watched Clinton take office and sign the AWB.

Not picking on UJ, but this was a ‘non-vote’. Perhaps a ‘feel good vote’, but a waste nevertheless. Any of you considering this on November 3, 2020 should just stay home.

[Berncly]

Not picking on UJ, but this was a ‘non-vote’. Perhaps a ‘feel good vote’, but a waste nevertheless. Any of you considering this on November 3, 2020 should just stay home.

I think at the time there was a real feeling by many that Perot was electable.
We learned from that experience and we now understand the harm that comes from dividing our voting base.

[icp4life162005]

Not picking on UJ, but this was a ‘non-vote’. Perhaps a ‘feel good vote’, but a waste nevertheless. Any of you considering this on November 3, 2020 should just stay home.

Well dont you just sound like quite the little elitist there bud.
His vote, his choice. Worry about your own house.

[icp4life162005]

I think at the time there was a real feeling by many that Perot was electable.
We learned from that experience and we now understand the harm that comes from dividing our voting base.

Maybe if more people got on board instead of picking 'democrat lite' things could change. So sick of the 'any other vote is ruining my candidate' bullshit too. There are all cut from the same damn cloth.

[JAKIII]

We learned from that experience and we now understand the harm that comes from dividing our voting base.

Well, Bern... there are some in the forum and this thread who didn’t learn.

Well dont you just sound like quite the little elitist there bud.
His vote, his choice. Worry about your own house.

If Trump loses on 11/3/20 it will be a result of those making a ‘statement’ with their third party vote.