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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Haven't seen this addressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOYABEAN View Post
    Did you get your BOOM club back
    Yeah , but like I said , it cost me $500. That ADA , now Judge was a real dick. Said he wasn't returning it and ''why don't you just make another one. It would be cheaper.'' with a real shit-eating grin. Got a phone call a week or so later to pick it up.
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    Default Re: Haven't seen this addressed?

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Not really. Just confused by what ya can and can't do with the AR platform and what makes it a pistol or SBR. The police and the press are often confused , or distort the facts.

    Probably 35 years ago I had a 16ga single shot shotgun. It was old enough to have no ser.no. , I cut the barrel down to 16 1/2in and OAL to 26 1/2in. A cop confiscated it and the ADA , now Judge Steven O'Neill tried to charge me with making a sawed-off shotgun , and removing the serial numbers. Letters from BATF stating it was perfectly legal didn't really seem to phase him. County detective said they were keeping it per ADA's orders. Cost me $500 to get a lawyer who cleared it up with a simple phone call.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Shotguns qualify as short barreled shotguns (SBS) if the weapon has an overall length of less than 26 inches long, or if its barrel is less than 18 inches long.

    I think you may be misremembering
    You can buy firearms similar to the one mentioned by Abner. Here's one with a 12 inch barrel and 28.5 inch OAL.
    https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/spets-12
    Not a SBS, transfers like a pistol, neither was the one described above my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Focusing on the idea of shouldering that brace is stupid.

    Someone who's willing to commit murder could have just as easily bought a pistol upper, attached it to a rifle lower, and there ain't anything the ATF could have done about it before he committed his crimes.
    That's my point in a roundabout way. I'm surprised the media didn't focus more on the mechanicals involved. The short barrel being the main point. I didn't realize it WAS a pistol. AR based pistols or subgun-size weapons simply don't interest me. Even though I own an -A2 style rifle and M4gery , I'm really not much of fan of Mr. Potatohead as I call it.

    I'm surprised they (media & politicians) haven't gone into how ya can build anything on a receiver. Not sure if the sheer volume/variety of AR parts , accessories and configurations would educate or scare non-gun types.

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    The BIG question is, are the headsets from both shooters the same brand?

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    Default Re: Haven't seen this addressed?

    They love using the words high velocity rounds. If they want slower bullets, they would want shorter barrels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by :-) View Post
    They love using the words high velocity rounds. If they want slower bullets, they would want shorter barrels...
    If I build a 45-70 AR will that calm the libs down? Low velocity round with little power to kill anything.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Horsey pucks!

    Legally it might be defined as a 'brace' , but if ya can put it against yer shoulder to steady it when firing , for all practical purposes , it's technically a butt stock.

    On my M4gery with 16in barrel , the collapsible Magpul stock is quite comfortable and super quick to shoulder while fully collapsed.
    Then you can't own a brace because you redesigned it into a stock as per batf. You want to take wheelchairs away next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    You can buy firearms similar to the one mentioned by Abner. Here's one with a 12 inch barrel and 28.5 inch OAL.
    https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/spets-12
    Not a SBS, transfers like a pistol, neither was the one described above my post.
    That thing is butt ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    You seem to be mad that people have freedom.

    Edit: LIMITED freedom.
    Fud
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