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    Default FOAC Petition to White House.

    https://foac-pac.org/Action-Alerts/67

    I usually avoid online petition signing. Occasionally one will come up that I will support. This is one of them. Kim Stolfer points out a fundamental flaw in a White House document claiming that the Second Amendment "gives" a right to keep and bear arms. The implication is that the right exists at governments whim and that if the 2A were gone, the grant of the right would go away too. That is a fundamentally flawed error in the understanding of the Constitution and the petition is intended to call attention to that flaw.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Signed and sent. Interesting how wording can give away one's beliefs. There is an ignorance (and arrogance) at work when someone expresses a constitutionally protected right as a granting of an allowance. Some would likely defend it, holding that it is semantics. No, it is a tell.
    There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Signed and sent. Interesting how wording can give away one's beliefs. There is an ignorance (and arrogance) at work when someone expresses a constitutionally protected right as a granting of an allowance. Some would likely defend it, holding that it is semantics. No, it is a tell.
    I would have expected that language in a Moms Demand or Every Town propaganda piece. Seeing it in a White House document is a bigger problem. I think it is intentional. Even if it was a mistake, the mistake is just as dangerous to our freedoms because it means that those in power do not even understand how the government that they are managing is even supposed to work.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Won't let me sign and send. I keep getting an AJAX HTTP error using the FOAC website.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Won't let me sign and send. I keep getting an AJAX HTTP error using the FOAC website.
    Same here.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qtrborecrazy View Post
    Same here.
    Same also
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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Quote Originally Posted by gdc View Post
    Same also
    I was able to sign using the link provided in the website. It brought me right to the standard WH petition webpage and signed it there. I haven't the tech savvy to even guess at the problem. Thanks for trying.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    No problem this time, but it took forever for the confirmation email to show up in my mailbox.

    But, all done now.

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Worked for me today. Yesterday I got the error message.

    Rick

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    Default Re: FOAC Petition to White House.

    Signed.

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