I finally had a bad OC experience.

[gnbrotz]

Why? Because Philadelphia is a 1st class city and gets a carve out to make it’s own rules.

That's not accurate, at all.

Are the rules different in Philly? Yes. But that's because there is a separate, state legislature enacted statute that applies to cities of the first class. If any other city ever reaches that distinction, the different rules will apply there too. If Philly happens to fall below that standard, the different rules will no longer apply there.

Yes, things are just a little different in Philly, but it's the work of our legislature.

If we're going to talk about preemption violations, then Philly certainly isn't alone there.

[JenniferG]

Can? Anybody can do anything. Legal? In Philadelphia I think so. Anywhere else? I think not. Why? Because Philadelphia is a 1st class city and gets a carve out to make it’s own rules. You need a license to open carry in Philadelphia, so if you are, they can ask. Everywhere else in Pennsylvania you can open carry without a license as long as you don’t conceal. A guy was convicted of concealing because he turned away the gun side from police. Any vehicle or conveyance is considered concealed. So you best be walking. No declaration of emergency can be in effect.

IanL so take it with a grain of salt.

I wouldn't push the idea that open carrying under a declared State of Emergency is legal right now. They are looking for a test case so be careful out there. There is no good reason for a state of emergency when none exists. Wolf takes huge sums of money from those that push opioids through workman's comp pharmacies.

Wolf’s campaign finance reports show that since June 2017, he has accepted $1.1 million from “Fairness PA,” a political action committee (PAC) which a Philadelphia Inquirer investigation exposed as “a channel for doctors and lawyers who own pharmacies to put their campaign contributions to use.” This past year, no single donor gave more to Wolf than “Fairness PA”.
Among the most prominent of the lawyers connected to “Fairness PA” are those tied to the Philadelphia firm Pond-Lehocky, which specializes in workers’ compensation cases.

http://thecommonwealthpartners.com/2...s-opioid-bill/

[normanvin]

I wouldn't push the idea that open carrying under a declared State of Emergency is legal right now. They are looking for a test case so be careful out there. There is no good reason for a state of emergency when none exists. Wolf takes huge sums of money from those that push opioids through workman's comp pharmacies.



http://thecommonwealthpartners.com/2...s-opioid-bill/

Wonder why no one has challenged this on going state of emergency?

[sota]

Wonder why no one has challenged this on going state of emergency?

Because it doesn't affect any PA resident with a PA carry license, which 99.99% of the people on this board have. Much like FUDDs don't care if evil black rifles get banned, as it doesn't affect their great grand pappy's O/U that they shoot 5 shells out of every year.

[Sgt.K]

Can? Anybody can do anything. Legal? In Philadelphia I think so. Anywhere else? I think not. Why? Because Philadelphia is a 1st class city and gets a carve out to make it’s own rules.

No, philly doesn't (legally) get to make its own rules. The state statutes treat it differently because it is a city of the first class.

You need a license to open carry in Philadelphia

Under the current (opioid) State of Emergency, you need a license to open carry anywhere in PA

so if you are, they can ask.

That is the question at hand.

Everywhere else in Pennsylvania you can open carry without a license as long as you don’t conceal.

See above.

A guy was convicted of concealing because he turned away the gun side from police.

I recall seeing something about that. It is/was a crock, IMO.

Any vehicle or conveyance is considered concealed.

Negative. Any vehicle or conveyance is considered "in a vehicle" - it's a separate clause in the statute, also requiring LTCF.

IanL so take it with a grain of salt.

IANAL, either, but my blood pressure is too high for that grain of salt.

[Statkowski]

Bad OC experience? The young lady working the cash register at our local Chinese take-out place asked me if I was a cop. I said, "No," and walked out. Me, going on 72 years old. A cop? Of course, it could have been a cultural thing. Didn't even faze me.

[Carson]

Bad OC experience? The young lady working the cash register at our local Chinese take-out place asked me if I was a cop. I said, "No," and walked out. Me, going on 72 years old. A cop? Of course, it could have been a cultural thing. Didn't even faze me.

Maybe she wanted to give you a di$count on your purchase.

[Krichardson]

Should have said "yes".....might have gotten an extra fortune cookie!

[GunLawyer001]

Bad OC experience? The young lady working the cash register at our local Chinese take-out place asked me if I was a cop. I said, "No," and walked out. Me, going on 72 years old. A cop? Of course, it could have been a cultural thing. Didn't even faze me.

Sounds like this didn't have a happy ending.

[str8shooter]

I wouldn't push the idea that open carrying under a declared State of Emergency is legal right now. They are looking for a test case so be careful out there. There is no good reason for a state of emergency when none exists. Wolf takes huge sums of money from those that push opioids through workman's comp pharmacies.

http://thecommonwealthpartners.com/2...s-opioid-bill/

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Under the current (opioid) State of Emergency, you need a license to open carry anywhere in PA
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I thought that expired on June 18, did Wolf renew it again?