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  1. #91
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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Why? Because Philadelphia is a 1st class city and gets a carve out to make it’s own rules.
    That's not accurate, at all.

    Are the rules different in Philly? Yes. But that's because there is a separate, state legislature enacted statute that applies to cities of the first class. If any other city ever reaches that distinction, the different rules will apply there too. If Philly happens to fall below that standard, the different rules will no longer apply there.

    Yes, things are just a little different in Philly, but it's the work of our legislature.

    If we're going to talk about preemption violations, then Philly certainly isn't alone there.

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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Can? Anybody can do anything. Legal? In Philadelphia I think so. Anywhere else? I think not. Why? Because Philadelphia is a 1st class city and gets a carve out to make it’s own rules. You need a license to open carry in Philadelphia, so if you are, they can ask. Everywhere else in Pennsylvania you can open carry without a license as long as you don’t conceal. A guy was convicted of concealing because he turned away the gun side from police. Any vehicle or conveyance is considered concealed. So you best be walking. No declaration of emergency can be in effect.

    IanL so take it with a grain of salt.
    I wouldn't push the idea that open carrying under a declared State of Emergency is legal right now. They are looking for a test case so be careful out there. There is no good reason for a state of emergency when none exists. Wolf takes huge sums of money from those that push opioids through workman's comp pharmacies.

    Wolf’s campaign finance reports show that since June 2017, he has accepted $1.1 million from “Fairness PA,” a political action committee (PAC) which a Philadelphia Inquirer investigation exposed as “a channel for doctors and lawyers who own pharmacies to put their campaign contributions to use.” This past year, no single donor gave more to Wolf than “Fairness PA”.
    Among the most prominent of the lawyers connected to “Fairness PA” are those tied to the Philadelphia firm Pond-Lehocky, which specializes in workers’ compensation cases.
    http://thecommonwealthpartners.com/2...s-opioid-bill/
    Last edited by JenniferG; July 9th, 2019 at 12:06 AM.
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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    I wouldn't push the idea that open carrying under a declared State of Emergency is legal right now. They are looking for a test case so be careful out there. There is no good reason for a state of emergency when none exists. Wolf takes huge sums of money from those that push opioids through workman's comp pharmacies.



    http://thecommonwealthpartners.com/2...s-opioid-bill/
    Wonder why no one has challenged this on going state of emergency?
    Don't be an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by normanvin View Post
    Wonder why no one has challenged this on going state of emergency?
    Because it doesn't affect any PA resident with a PA carry license, which 99.99% of the people on this board have. Much like FUDDs don't care if evil black rifles get banned, as it doesn't affect their great grand pappy's O/U that they shoot 5 shells out of every year.
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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Can? Anybody can do anything. Legal? In Philadelphia I think so. Anywhere else? I think not. Why? Because Philadelphia is a 1st class city and gets a carve out to make it’s own rules.
    No, philly doesn't (legally) get to make its own rules. The state statutes treat it differently because it is a city of the first class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    You need a license to open carry in Philadelphia
    Under the current (opioid) State of Emergency, you need a license to open carry anywhere in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    so if you are, they can ask.
    That is the question at hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Everywhere else in Pennsylvania you can open carry without a license as long as you don’t conceal.
    See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    A guy was convicted of concealing because he turned away the gun side from police.
    I recall seeing something about that. It is/was a crock, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Any vehicle or conveyance is considered concealed.
    Negative. Any vehicle or conveyance is considered "in a vehicle" - it's a separate clause in the statute, also requiring LTCF.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    IanL so take it with a grain of salt.
    IANAL, either, but my blood pressure is too high for that grain of salt.

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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Bad OC experience? The young lady working the cash register at our local Chinese take-out place asked me if I was a cop. I said, "No," and walked out. Me, going on 72 years old. A cop? Of course, it could have been a cultural thing. Didn't even faze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Bad OC experience? The young lady working the cash register at our local Chinese take-out place asked me if I was a cop. I said, "No," and walked out. Me, going on 72 years old. A cop? Of course, it could have been a cultural thing. Didn't even faze me.
    Maybe she wanted to give you a di$count on your purchase.

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    Should have said "yes".....might have gotten an extra fortune cookie!
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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Bad OC experience? The young lady working the cash register at our local Chinese take-out place asked me if I was a cop. I said, "No," and walked out. Me, going on 72 years old. A cop? Of course, it could have been a cultural thing. Didn't even faze me.
    Sounds like this didn't have a happy ending.
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    Default Re: I finally had a bad OC experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    I wouldn't push the idea that open carrying under a declared State of Emergency is legal right now. They are looking for a test case so be careful out there. There is no good reason for a state of emergency when none exists. Wolf takes huge sums of money from those that push opioids through workman's comp pharmacies.

    http://thecommonwealthpartners.com/2...s-opioid-bill/
    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
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    Under the current (opioid) State of Emergency, you need a license to open carry anywhere in PA
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    I thought that expired on June 18, did Wolf renew it again?
    You are a straight white man. You don't get to be the victim, sweetie.

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