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    Default 2nd Amendment Wins

    I want to start a dedicated thread to 2nd Amendment wins. Articles that show states, politicians, judges and citizens care about protecting and preserving the 2nd. Basically a thread full of positive stories about the 2nd that show we are making a difference. I read a lot of pro 2nd articles that never get posted to the site. This thread is for those type of stories.

    This thread is for only positive 2nd Amendment stories. If someone posts an article for discussion about something positive going on with the 2nd in another thread, I hope they will consider copy and pasting the story into this thread.

    Let show that states like California, New Jersey, Maryland, New York who have little respect for the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment are in the minority. Sometime is seems like the media focuses on those states and wants to give the impression that the 2nd is not deserving of being a Constitutional right that codifies natural law. They are wrong and this thread is for the stories that show respect for the 2nd.

    I don’t think antis are winning though. I think we are winning. Antis and the media might want us to think different, but carry laws are much better than they were back in the 80's. We've overcome the federal assault weapon ban of the 90's. We are getting federal judges who don’t want to trash the 2nd and have had 2 recent Supreme Court judges who I think will respect the 2nd when it comes to firearm cases that reach the court.

    We have a way to go but we are going in the right direction with no signs of stopping.

    Take a look at the evolution of carry laws from 1986 to 2019.


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    In Kentucky this week.

    http://kentuckytoday.com/stories/con...his-week,20183

    Concealed carry one of many new laws taking effect this week

    FRANKFORT, Ky. (KT) - Kentucky’s new concealed carry law is one of many pieces of legislation passed by the 2019 General Assembly that is going into effect this week.

    Senate Bill 150 allows concealed firearms to be carried without a concealed carry permit. The measure will allow Kentuckians age 21 and older, who are legally eligible, to possess a firearm to carry a concealed weapon without a license in the same location as people with valid state-issued licenses. Permitless carry will not be allowed where prohibited by federal law or otherwise prohibited.

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    This is mostly symbolic at this point, but shows some politicians in California do respect the 2nd.

    https://www.sbsun.com/2019/06/24/nee...tate-gun-laws/

    Needles declared itself a “2nd Amendment Sanctuary” city; wants exemption to some state gun laws
    Leaders of border town say strict rules are keeping Arizonans out.

    One of San Bernardino County’s easternmost cities wants to be a sanctuary, not for undocumented immigrants, for gun owners.

    Needles this month declared itself a “Second Amendment Sanctuary City” a message that city leaders say is partly about support for gun rights and partly a desire to get an exemption from state law so out-of-state gun owners can travel through town and for residents to purchase ammunition.

    The former railroad town of about about 5,000 is near the Colorado River, close to the Arizona state line, and city officials say that California’s gun laws are prompting Arizona residents to stay out of Needles, hurting business in the town.

    “All we can do is tighten state law,” said Mayor Jeff Williams. “We can’t loosen it, but we can ask for a change in the law or an exemption.”

    The City Council, which made the declaration during a meeting on June 11, eventually could consider all or any of three possibilities — an exemption from the state’s gun laws for Needles and a 65-mile radius surrounding the town, a request request the state to allow the city to recognize concealed weapon permit holders from neighboring Arizona and Nevada, and a request to the county to allow sheriff’s deputies to not enforce weapons violations by California, Nevada and Arizona residents who are following their state’s rules.

    California, which has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, does not recognize out of state concealed carry permits, nor does the state issue such permits to out-of-state residents.

    However, Arizona and 23 other states do recognize California permits.

    “It’s time to have reciprocity,” Williams said. “Out-of-state residents cannot get a concealed weapon permit in California, however you as a Californian can get an out-of-state permit in every other state. It’s time for us to recognize other permits.”

    City officials may also request the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s department to direct its deputies to use discretion when they pull over Arizona or Nevada residents carrying weapons in their vehicles.

    This could mean, Williams said, that an out-of-state resident would be asked to take their gun back across state lines, or be allowed to unload the weapon and place it in the trunk or locked container, as is required in California, rather than face potential criminal charges.

    California’s concealed carry permit holders are allowed to transport a loaded weapon in their vehicles. Those without California permits are required to keep their weapon unloaded and locked in the trunk or other locked container. The weapon must also remain in a locked container when carried to or from a vehicle.

    In addition to exemptions for licensed gun owners, Williams said they are looking to lessen restrictions on ammunition purchases for California residents in Needles.

    It is illegal purchase ammunition out of state, then transport it back to California. Ammo must be purchased in person at a vendor licensed with the state’s Department of Justice. Online orders must be shipped to one of these vendors, not to a buyer’s home.

    For Needles gun owners this means driving more than 100 miles purchase ammunition in person, or to pick up online orders, from a California-licensed vendor, even though there are ammunition stores just a few miles across the river, Williams said.

    The ammunition rules are part of Proposition 63, which was approved by about 63 percent of California voters in 2016. Starting July 1, ammunition buyers will be required to show identification and undergo a background check.

    Steve Lindley, program manager with the Brady Campaign & Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Los Angeles, said there already are exemptions for out-of-state hunters coming into California. He also said ammunition is available at gun ranges without a background check, but that ammo needs to be used there.

    Lindley, who said he was in law enforcement for 30 years, said deputies do have some discretion, but they ultimately are sworn to uphold California law.

    Part of the problem with out-of-state permits, Lindley said, is different states have different criteria for who can own a gun.

    “I think that the issue that we would have is somebody who might not be prohibited from owning a firearm and having a concealed weapon permit in Nevada or Arizona might be prohibited here in California,” he said.

    He believes Needles isn’t likely to be granted an exemption from state gun laws, in part because such a move could set off a flurry of requests from other border communities.

    “There are a number of cities up and down the state bordering Arizona and Nevada, or Oregon, and they’d be asking for those same exemptions.”

    Williams, Needles’ mayor, said his community plans to meet with the Sheriff’s Department, California Highway Patrol and state legislators to discuss their request. He added that they are talking with other border cities that might be interested in joining them.

    “Los Angeles and San Francisco usually control most of what we get in the state of California,” Williams said. “We don’t appreciate them dictating to us like they’ve been doing.”

    While Needles proclaims to be a sanctuary for gun owners, it took a stand against co-called sanctuary cities for undocumented immigrants. The city was one of several across the state to pass a resolution saying it opposes California laws that limit local law enforcement cooperation with federal immigration officials.

    In contrast, the city has turned to the legal sale and manufacture of cannabis to generate revenue.

    “It’s a conservative town with a streak of Libertarianism,” Williams said.

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    "Gun rights are quietly winning on the ground in the vast majority of the US. Yes, there are some major exceptions to that, and we will talk about them. But as we go point by point, a picture will start to emerge of something happening here that everybody is missing."

    "Gallup has decades worth of polling data on guns. And when you zoom out, the signal is clear: we are in the middle of a multi-decade decline in support for gun control..."

    "Even among people who don’t own guns, there is a multi-decade trend towards gun rights."

    To read not only the entire article but to see the polls showing the breakdown across every demographic...check out this new website which brings a more proactive approach to writing about our gun rights.

    The BLOG section has some interesting reads and a different approach for talking to those about them...

    https://opensourcedefense.org/blog/g...as-realized-it

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    South Dakota becomes Constitutional Carry next week.

    South Dakota law enforcement ready for conceal carry permit change
    Michaela FeldmannWed 10:57 PM, Jun 19, 2019


    https://www.ksfy.com/content/news/So...511553652.html


    Sioux Falls, S.D. - In less than one month, people in South Dakota will no longer need a permit to carry a concealed gun.


    According to the National Rifle Association, only 13 other states (Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Main, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming) do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

    Starting July 1st, carrying a gun in South Dakota will become a lot easier.

    “We will be encountering more people that have firearms that are concealing firearms,” Minnehaha County Sheriff Mike Milstead said. “Many of those will be good people. Some will be bad people.”

    While you may not need a permit in South Dakota, the same rules don’t apply if you're traveling outside of the state.

    “It does nothing for you outside of the state of South Dakota,” Schlueter Firearms Instruction Owner Matt Schlueter said. “So it wouldn’t matter if I drove to Minnesota or I drove to Wyoming. In both states I would still need a valid permit.”

    Because without it...

    “Going to jail, spending the night, having some legal fees and possible criminal history at the end of it,” Schlueter said.

    Milstead said not a lot will change in how they train their officers, but rather their awareness of the rules of the new change.

    “So that we protect their constitutional right, but also to increase awareness to the officers that they may be encountering more people that are armed and that’s just the reality of it,” Milstead said.

    But, he has some concerns.

    Milstead said in the last three years they’ve denied almost 300 concealed carry permits.

    “These are people who drove to the sheriff’s office and came in thinking they would walk out with a concealed carry permit,” Milstead said.

    But, they had disqualifiers like a mental health commitment, history of drug abuse, an out of state criminal conviction, or a domestic protection order against them.

    Milstead worries about those people.

    “We know that there are people that will break this law,” Milstead said. “They would still be prohibited people, but what is to say that a prohibited person's not just going to continue to carry.”

    Sheriff Milstead said he’s already seeing a lot of permit holders renew them so they can travel outside of the state with a concealed handgun.

    There are classes offered for people wanting to learn more about the permits and the laws.

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    I wonder how many countries in the world that don’t have a 2nd Amendment have promotions like this going on. Where else can citizens use shotguns as part of their marketing for selling cars?


    https://www.fox10tv.com/news/souther...1c4423387.html

    Southern Alabama car dealership giving away gun, bible, and flag with every purchase
    Tyler Fingert Updated 8 hrs ago | Posted on Jun 25, 2019 0
    CHATOM, Ala (WALA) -- A Southern Alabama Ford dealership is raising some eyebrows with its latest promotion in honor of Independence Day. They are giving away a shotgun, a bible and an American flag with every new and used car purchase.

    “It’s grown a lot more than we anticipated,” said Coby Palmer from Chatom Ford. “It was just something we just threw together.”

    With this latest promotion Chatom Ford is taking God, guns and freedom to a new level.

    Chatom Ford Promotion
    An Alabama car dealership is offering a free bible, flag, and shotgun with every purchase.
    (Facebook / ChatomFord)
    “We had no idea it was going to spread outside of our little bubble here in South Alabama,” Palmer said.

    The Facebook ad has gone viral.

    “It’s not even been three full business days since then and we’ve already sold in excess of five, just because of the ads,” Palmer said.

    “I think we signed the papers and it was like oh by the way,” said Terry & Terri Flowers.

    The Flowers Family the first to put pen to paper and take advantage even though the promo was just a bonus.

    “We’re getting a gun, plus a bible and a flag,” they said. “3 good things and I thought it was pretty cool.”

    A lot of people feeling that exact same way. The phones ringing off the hook with callers looking to take advantage of a unique Independence Day promotion.

    “No matter how many people come buy a car, truck and SUV they’ll be able to take full advantage of getting themselves a bible, a flag and a gun,” Palmer said.

    When you buy the vehicle, they give you the bible and flag onsite and a certificate for a gun from a licensed firearm dealer.

    The promotion runs through the end of July.

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    A step in the right direction for Tennessee.

    https://kwwl.com/news/2019/06/25/ten...r-gun-permits/

    Tennessee changes laws for gun permits

    (NBC/WSMV) — People in Tennessee can now get a concealed carry permit online instead of taking a course in-person.

    In order to get a permit, people have to take a 90-minute online course.

    Previously, the state required people to take an eight-hour, hands-on course to receive a concealed carry permit.

    Many pro-gun people in Tennessee say they are not a fan of the law.

    “I think that, probably, our biggest concern is that people will just take the online class and then not seek out any additional training,” said Shane Kerwin, a fire arms instructor.

    State Representative Andy Holt, who sponsored the bill, said the law change is about saving people money and time.

    The new law is backed by the National Rifle Association (NRA).

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    NFA $200.00 tax not really a tax LAWSUIT...

    "This case interests amici because it concerns the enumeration and thus
    limitation of federal power, most notably the proper scope of the government’s
    taxing power and its ability to restrict the right of the people to keep and bear arms."


    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1561403732

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    https://kvoa.com/news/2019/06/23/d-b...l-in-tombston/

    D-Back great Curt Schilling to lead 2nd Amendment Town Hall in Tombstone

    TOMBSTONE – On June 28th and June 29th all roads lead to Tombstone Arizona. The 3rd annual Freedom Days celebration will feature baseball great Curt Schilling during the special celebration of the Second Amendment. In addition, there’ll the 11th annual Buffalo soldier salute (with some of the last surviving Tuskegee airmen!) Here’s more from Sunday newscast:



    There’ll also be a big parade on Saturday, June 29th at 11 a.m. on historic Allen Street in downtown Tombstone, Arizona.

    “Freedom Days” all kicks off the evening of Friday, June 28th, from 6 to 8, at the famous Oriental Saloon. The kickoff includes a celebrity mixer with several of the Freedom Days celebrities in attendance (including actress Morgan Brittany and her husband,famous stuntman Jack Gill, along with Tombstone movie actor Peter Sherayko, Mark Walters from “Armed America Radio” and others.

    On Saturday, June 29th, there’ll be the Town Hall Discussion on the 2nd Amendment. Doors open at 6 at the historic Cchieffelin Hall. The event itself begins at 7 p.m. June 29th. Baseball great Curt Schilling and several other celebrities will be on the panel to talk about America’s Second Amendment, the U.S. Constitution and freedoms. For tickets, you can call 520-226-5024. Tickets are $12 a person. Also on Saturday, attendees will get the chance to meet famous actress Morgan Brittany at the Crystal Palace Saloon from 1 to 4 p.m. Doc Holliday’s Saloon in Tombstone will also host movie actor Peter Saysherayko, who’ll be signing autographs from 12 to 3 p.m..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoV8 View Post
    NFA $200.00 tax not really a tax LAWSUIT...

    "This case interests amici because it concerns the enumeration and thus
    limitation of federal power, most notably the proper scope of the government’s
    taxing power and its ability to restrict the right of the people to keep and bear arms."


    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1561403732
    McCulloch vs Maryland!
    Justice Marshall "the unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to destroy" 17 US 327 (1819)
    Our brethren are already in the Field, why stand we here Idle?
    Si vis pacem, Para bellum
    To every man upon this earth, death cometh, soon or late

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