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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOYABEAN View Post
    Ban Narcan it's for the children we shouldn't mess with mother nature.
    Besides children negligently being affected, so have first responders. Just like a tourniquet, the life it may save, may be your own.

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    Besides children negligently being affected, so have first responders. Just like a tourniquet, the life it may save, may be your own.
    I get it but like everything else in life there's always someone that will find a way to abuse it especially a politician!

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Addiction is a choice of the weak-minded. They deserve death! If I saw anyone OD'ing , I'd just walk on by.
    I don't speak English , I talk American!

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Addiction is a choice of the weak-minded. They deserve death! If I saw anyone OD'ing , I'd just walk on by.
    Unless it's in a episode of Seinfeld

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exbiker View Post
    Agreed and ban insulin, nitro, antibiotics, vaccines, antihistamines, bronchodilators, defibrillators and anything else that messes with mother natures. Holy crap least we not forget to ban chemotherapy, totally not natural or part of nature.
    I've seen you use this argument before many times. It's apples and oranges. People with measles, heart disease, ear infections, lung issues, etc are not out robbing, shooting, stabbing, stealing from others because of their condition or because they did or not take an associated medication. When someone gets revived with CPR after a Cheetos binge and jumps up and starts shooting everyone or some slob holds someone at knife point to steal their case of Snickers, then it might warrant a closer look. Until then lets stop with the whole we gotta shut the whole medical system down just because violent drug addicts can't be enabled to do more destructive behavior.

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by wanneroo View Post
    I've seen you use this argument before many times. It's apples and oranges. People with measles, heart disease, ear infections, lung issues, etc are not out robbing, shooting, stabbing, stealing from others because of their condition or because they did or not take an associated medication. When someone gets revived with CPR after a Cheetos binge and jumps up and starts shooting everyone or some slob holds someone at knife point to steal their case of Snickers, then it might warrant a closer look. Until then lets stop with the whole we gotta shut the whole medical system down just because violent drug addicts can't be enabled to do more destructive behavior.
    Yep. He loves the straw man.

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    About two months ago, one of the locals here was revived three times over the course of 2 days.
    He was pissed that the Narcan ruined his high.
    Three times in two days.
    What is the magic number when the EMT's can call it ?
    God Bless the American Armed Forces, Thank You All.

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exbiker View Post
    Facts really? No I don't believe they are victims but explain the large and disproportionate number of military veterans that have a substance abuse disorder.
    According to science the 3 biggest risk factors are genetics, trauma and mental illness.

    Just like a liberal you confuse facts with your beliefs and opinions.
    Instead of poor Sally, you trot out veterans. It isn't settled science that trauma for example is a leading cause. I've read the abstracts that point to a predisposition to addiction as a likely dominant cause for eventual prescription opioid abuse - ie, it would be something else if not the prescription - but if it makes you feel better to use vets to try to tug at taxpayer heartstrings, go for it.

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebearpack View Post
    Instead of poor Sally, you trot out veterans. It isn't settled science that trauma for example is a leading cause. I've read the abstracts that point to a predisposition to addiction as a likely dominant cause for eventual prescription opioid abuse - ie, it would be something else if not the prescription - but if it makes you feel better to use vets to try to tug at taxpayer heartstrings, go for it.
    I will defer to your expertise obviously the research you did for your PHD exceeds the findings of the people I was listening to.

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    Default Re: Cops use Narcan to revive man... he start shooting once revived.

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    What don't you understand about free? It's just free, just like free college and free healthcare.
    Yeah, it's it's it's like lolipops, rainbows with pots of gold, and unicorns!!!
    Live Free or Die! FJB!!!

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