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May 17th, 2011, 11:33 PM #1
U.S H.R. 1865 - Bill to Allow Carry on ACE Owned/Managed Property
H.R. 1865, The Recreational Lands Self-Defense Act Introduced
Currently in The Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
( Text eventually here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1865: )
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6787
H.R. 1865, The Recreational Lands Self-Defense Act Introduced
Friday, May 13, 2011
Urge your Member of Congress to Cosponsor this Important Legislation--On May 12, Rep. Bob Gibbs (R-Ohio) and Rep. Jason Altmire (D-Pa.) introduced H.R. 1865, the Recreational Lands Self-Defense Act, which is designed to protect the rights of gun owners on lands owned or managed by the Army Corps of Engineers.
Legislation that made it legal to possess firearms for self-defense on National Park Service and National Wildlife Refuge System lands greatly expanded the places where law-abiding Americans can legally carry firearms for self-defense. However, that change in the law did not include millions of acres of recreational land managed by the Army Corps of Engineers. The Corps owns or manages over 11.7 million acres, including 400 lakes and river projects, 90,000 campsites and 4,000 miles of trails.
After passage of the change in carry regulations for National Parks, the Army Corps released a statement that read: "Public Law 111-024 does not apply to Corps projects of facilities . . . It [the Army Corps] will continue to prohibit loaded concealed weapons on Corps properties regardless of the new law and notwithstanding any contrary provisions of state law."
H.R. 1865 will reverse this Army Corps policy and prohibit the Secretary of the Army from enforcing any regulation that prohibits gun possession in compliance with state law on Corps projects and lands. The legislation would not, however, allow firearms in federal facilities such as Army Corps headquarters, Corps research facilities or lock and dam buildings.
This important legislation is another step in the removal of a patchwork of laws that prohibit or restrict where law-abiding people may legally carry a firearm for self-defense.
Jason Altmire [D-PA4]
Tim Holden [D-PA17]
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http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/
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Re: U.S H.R. 1865 - Bill to Allow Carry on ACE Owned/Managed Property
that will be a nice change. the corps owns just about every damn dam out there so if a park has a dam in it and you walk out onto the damn with a gun you can be in trouble.
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Re: U.S H.R. 1865 - Bill to Allow Carry on ACE Owned/Managed Property
Before we go supporting it and writing our reps, we probably should see the text of it. There may in fact be some gotchas in there that we want to know about first. You know, the old "the big print giveth, the little print taketh away" routine.
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May 22nd, 2011, 01:45 AM #5
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Here's the text of the Bill......
H.R.1865 -- Recreational Lands Self-Defense Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)
HR 1865 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 1865
To protect the right of individuals to bear arms at water resources development projects administered by the Secretary of the Army, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
May 12, 2011
Mr. GIBBS (for himself, Mr. ALTMIRE, Mr. JORDAN, Mr. HOLDEN, Mr. DUNCAN of Tennessee, Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. WALBERG, Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. CHAFFETZ, Mr. GOHMERT, Mrs. BLACKBURN, Mr. BUCHANAN, Mr. STIVERS, Mr. BROUN of Georgia, Mr. LATOURETTE, Mr. MCCLINTOCK, Mr. LATTA, Mrs. MILLER of Michigan, Mr. AUSTRIA, and Mr. TIBERI) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
A BILL
To protect the right of individuals to bear arms at water resources development projects administered by the Secretary of the Army, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Recreational Lands Self-Defense Act of 2011'.
SEC. 2. PROTECTING AMERICANS FROM VIOLENT CRIME.
.....(a) Findings- Congress finds the following:
............(1) The Second Amendment to the Constitution provides that `the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed'.
............(2) Section 327.13 of title 36, Code of Federal Regulations, provides that, except in special circumstances, `possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other weapons is prohibited' at water resources development projects administered by the Secretary of the Army.
............(3) The regulations described in paragraph (2) prevent individuals complying with Federal and State laws from exercising the second amendment rights of the individuals while at such water resources development projects.
............(4) The Federal laws should make it clear that the second amendment rights of an individual at a water resources development project should not be infringed.
......(b) Protecting the Right of Individuals To Bear Arms at Water Resources Development Projects- The Secretary of the Army shall not promulgate or enforce any regulation that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm including an assembled or functional firearm at a water resources development project covered under section 327.0 of title 36, Code of Federal Regulations (as in effect on the date of enactment of this Act), if--
............(1) the individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm; and
............(2) the possession of the firearm is in compliance with the law of the State in which the water resources development project is located.
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Re: U.S H.R. 1865 - Bill to Allow Carry on ACE Owned/Managed Property
Thanks ID!!!
I can't believe it's that short, LOL
I bet it won't be by the time it gets voted on
Glock Pistols.......So simple a Caveman could fix them!
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May 24th, 2011, 11:57 AM #7
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We need something similarly short and to the point related to the U.S. Postal Service public facilities!
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Re: U.S H.R. 1865 - Bill to Allow Carry on ACE Owned/Managed Property
Like.....The right of the people to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be questioned?
I am kinda surprised that after the lawsuit was filed we haven't seen something, Heck we need to be able to protect ourselves FROM the postal workers, LOL!!!
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June 13th, 2011, 12:42 AM #9
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