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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooBigToFit View Post
    Sounds like you upgraded to audibly inspecting the chamber. Too operator for me.
    Nahhh I just look down the bore like a telescope.

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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    I drop the magazine and rack 3 times. Always the same procedure, not 2 times, not 4 times, but 3 times. Not sure where I picked this up from but been doing it for years.
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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    Once.
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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    <sarchasm> I rack it at least 35 times. Just in case on of those evil extended capacity magazines jumped in there. </sarcasm>

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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    I just aim it out the nearest window and pull the trigger until I'm confident it's unloaded.
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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    10 times seems like OCD, but 2 or 3 times effectively eliminates an actual source of ND's.

    There was a case locally, a woman bought a pistol and put it in her nightstand. Her idiot daughter invited 2 idiot friends over (a boy and another girl), and they got the gun and played with it. The boy dropped the mag while saying "I know all about guns" before pulling the trigger and negligently shooting the other girl in the face. Racking once would have been wise. (The girl's family sued THE GUNSHOP that sold the mother the gun, and WON. Philadelphia juries are insane.)

    Other instances have been people who racked the slide once, saw that the chamber was empty (or at least nothing ejected), then they pulled the trigger and shot someone negligently. Yep, the gun was initially unchambered, but racking the slide once to check, actually chambered a round. Racking twice would have prevented that. So would checking for a magazine.

    Racking 3 times just bumps the odds slightly to the better over twice, because it's possible to rack a bolt without extracting the chambered round, if the extractor is bad. The odds against that happening 3 times are lower than it happening once, or twice.

    I think in practice I go 2X, while visually looking into the chamber and also being sure to remove the mag first.
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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    I always rack my revolvers at least 6 times.
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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    10 times seems like OCD, but 2 or 3 times effectively eliminates an actual source of ND's.

    There was a case locally, a woman bought a pistol and put it in her nightstand. Her idiot daughter invited 2 idiot friends over (a boy and another girl), and they got the gun and played with it. The boy dropped the mag while saying "I know all about guns" before pulling the trigger and negligently shooting the other girl in the face. Racking once would have been wise. (The girl's family sued THE GUNSHOP that sold the mother the gun, and WON. Philadelphia juries are insane.)

    Other instances have been people who racked the slide once, saw that the chamber was empty (or at least nothing ejected), then they pulled the trigger and shot someone negligently. Yep, the gun was initially unchambered, but racking the slide once to check, actually chambered a round. Racking twice would have prevented that. So would checking for a magazine.

    Racking 3 times just bumps the odds slightly to the better over twice, because it's possible to rack a bolt without extracting the chambered round, if the extractor is bad. The odds against that happening 3 times are lower than it happening once, or twice.

    I think in practice I go 2X, while visually looking into the chamber and also being sure to remove the mag first.

    I can't even begin to understand how that's legal.

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    Default Re: How many times do you rack the slide before being confident it’s not loaded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
    Drop mag.
    Rack 3 times.
    Lock open.
    Visual inspection,
    Finger inspection.
    Just to answer the OP, all kidding aside, what I wrote above is the standard for LEO training.
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