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    Default Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/l...aw-took-effect

    The article reports that some confiscations are based on reports of offensive online remarks, not a history of mental illness or violence. This is where the Red Flag laws were intended to go. They are very dangerous to our rights and freedoms, including First Amendment rights.
    Last edited by Wilderness 1864; May 14th, 2019 at 08:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    I'll have to find out if the red flag law was just used on my dads wife's grandson in nj.
    Cops raided his house the other day (search warrant) and found 4 guns out back of his house.
    My dads wife says she has no idea how they got the warrant, she thinks someone may have
    said something about him using drugs. Hes in jail now since mothers day with 19 charges
    against him.

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    This may illustrate one of the problems I have with Red Flag laws, once inside, the police can grab (or plant) anything, even unrelated to the basis for the Red Flag confiscation which is intended only to seize firearms. Prior to Red Flag the police would have at least have had to go to a Judge and get a search warrant based on probable cause that an actual crime has been committed. That is not a requirement any longer. A hearsay allegation made by anyone to the police and based on a flimsy uncontested evidentiary standard is all it takes for the police to independently seek an order. The Fourth Amendment is a thing of the past, consigned by the socialist Democrats and RINOs to the trash bin where all individual rights and freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution are destined to end up.

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    Gee who saw this coming?

    Fortunately the government accountability portion of the law will set this right.

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    Very troubling, but like others have said, who didnít see this coming? If these laws get passed in Pennsylvania I honestly fear my one aunt could very well end up using these laws against me. It troubles me to say that but I honestly do fear itís true. In fact Iíve been very careful not to allow my aunt to know just how much of an ďarsenalĒ Iíve accumulated. Lol itís small Iím sure , compared to some of you guys. My aunt loves me and is not a mean person but she is 100% indoctrinated into the leftist mindset that guns are the biggest problem we have in this country, especially AR type rifles. Iíve had ďdiscussionsĒ with her and she absolutely refuses delivery of actual facts concerning the rifles. She firmly believes these are military weapons that posses extraordinary killing power and that they fire a special round that is more powerful as more deadly than your average hunting rifle. I tried in vain to explain the fact that ballistically it is actually less powerful than the most popular deer rifles. None of that matters, she firmly believes these rifles posses powers that other guns donít. She also, Iím quite sure could easily be convinced that political speech is (hate speech) if it pushes ideals she disagrees with. Iím no radical wacko Iím not shouting about overthrowing government or anything like that. Iím easy going , calm and level headed I just feel passionately about preserving my rights and liberty that the founders enshrined in our founding, but I can see her using my political disagreements with her coupled with the red flag laws to intervene ďfor my own goodĒ type situation. These laws really do scare me. It would be far fetched for my aunt to do it but the fact is I can envision it. Iím quite sure there are many other people who wouldnít think twice about making an accusation against an ex spouse or family member or ex boy friend or neighbors that have some issue. These laws are just begging to be abused

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    These BS Red flag laws only apply to gun owners because they hate gun owners. What if everyone was included? It would fix everything...

    Guns aren't that hard to find and there are a lot of things that can be used as weapons.
    If the person is a danger to society or just has a mental problem like they think they are something they are not... ...
    Why would they let them be out running around in public?
    See how long red flag laws would last after they start locking up the libtards that want this crap.

    If they lock these crazy kids and people up before something happens, look at all the lives it would save...
    It's "commonsense."

    The libtards love that word.

    A liberal I was talking to yesterday said that they should make all gun owners go through a psychological evaluation before buying a gun...
    I said they should make all kids go through one before they can get in high school...
    If they don't pass it, put them in a mental facility for life.
    She said that would be unconstitutional....
    It's always ok for the "other guy" but not them.

    We need to start turning it around to include them and sometimes they are smart enough to realize how stupid they sound.
    Sometimes they are just braindead.


    For example.... Ban guns, confiscate them by force if we have to but "a clear backpack is unconstitutional"... You can't make this stuff up.
    These people all have a mental disorder...



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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    Yeah,well everyone hates guns right ? Until the NAZIs come breaking down your door and shipping you off to Concentration camps ! Why cant people take the lessons learned from the NAZIs the first order of business was to Dis-arm the population ! !

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    Quote Originally Posted by MARINE DIVISION TWO View Post
    Yeah,well everyone hates guns right ? Until the NAZIs come breaking down your door and shipping you off to Concentration camps ! Why cant people take the lessons learned from the NAZIs the first order of business was to Dis-arm the population ! !
    Because most of these libtards are the new nazis. Brown shirt army chomping at the bit.

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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    They aren't really concerned about "safety" it's all about disarmament and harassing gun owners out of existence.

    I went shooing with my girlfriend and she, not knowing any better told one of her friends she went shooting and her son had a lot of fun and probably showed pictures of her son with AK47s and AR15s. She is now constantly hearing about gun control and that I'm crazy for owning that many guns non stop and I have to put up with it from her libtard family constantly yacking my ear off about what do you think about whatever bull shit all the time like my opinion matters. I'm pleading the 5th from now on, I don't think noting about nothing... Sorry... All you have to do is state your point of view and they get triggered. It's like trying to reason with a mental patient. One of them gets mad enough because you don't agree with their warped sense of reality and you never know what they will do...

    I hate to say it but it's like you have to hide the fact that you are a gun owner anymore.
    Keep a low profile and don't talk to anyone.
    We are not living in a free country anymore.
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    Default Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.

    In defense of the law if you keep libtard friends, girlfriends, etc, etc, you got it coming.

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