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May 15th, 2019, 07:59 AM #21
Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
It could take a long time. Plus, you have to wait for the right case that highlights the constitutional issues and makes the laws less defensible.
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May 15th, 2019, 08:27 AM #22Grand Member
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Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
I don't know, but will it matter?
I assume PFA's have been upheld as constitutional.
This isn't much different. Somebody says something which may or may not be a complete fabrication. Court shrugs and says issue the temporary order out of an abundance of caution (the children).
You lose your guns, and need to hire a lawyer. Eventually maybe you get them back, maybe you don't.
Seems to be a similar premise to me.....basically go get fucked.
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May 19th, 2019, 01:34 AM #23Grand Member
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Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
“These are individuals who are often exercising their first amendment rights online, who are protecting constitutionally protected speech online,” she said. “Maybe it was odious, maybe people didn’t like it but they were hit with the risk protection order because of it.”
I recall some Bloomberg mouthpiece telling Congress "We need to control gun owners" when asked why we "need" these laws. Yeah, big surprise there.
Bloomberg loves to control things.
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Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
Red flag laws should send a chill down the spine of every American. Today it is us, law abiding gun owners being persecuted. The day will come when they will expand this to include perhaps "hate speech", "pro-life people" "christians". We have a judicial system in place since our founding, you make a complaint in a court, present evidence, the accused responds and a jury decides. These laws take away all presumption of innocence, due process, evidence, etc. We should all be very alarmed at where this is going. Not good.
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May 19th, 2019, 06:45 AM #25
Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
The authorities and those given orders should prepare themselves to lose a few on every raid. A pretty steep price to enforce "shut up we don't like what you're saying'.
Last edited by JenniferG; May 19th, 2019 at 06:56 AM.
Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC
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May 19th, 2019, 11:04 AM #26
Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
The SCOTUS should hear a representative case, so the five unelected people who ultimately run this country can correct the situation.
There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.
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May 20th, 2019, 09:18 PM #27
Re: Red Flag Laws at Work in Florida.
This is happening routinely in Great Britain right now -- as bad as anything I have seen in what most would still consider a "free" country. Germany too. New Zealand, in the process of a gun confiscation program, is sending out police questioning people about their political views, particularly on muslim immigration. Read what is happening in Canada and the enforcement of their hate speech laws. It is happening here in the USA in many school systems and at the university level.
NY has serious legislative proposals requiring that an individual seeking to exercise 2nd Amendment rights first agree to a thorough search of emails and social media and internet search histories.
Apparently our own Senator Casey is already introducing legislation 1st and 2nd Amendment throttling legislation.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/d...ct-introduced/Last edited by Wilderness 1864; May 20th, 2019 at 10:08 PM.
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