New PA LTCF Holder - Vehicle Questions

[JG93]

Hi all, as my first post, I intend to beat a probably dead horse again.
I have done some research, but I can not find the answer I'm looking for, in a straight forward response.

I have my LTCF in PA. I travel quite a lot into Ohio, and West Virginia.

When in the car, I like to dock my pistol, either under steering wheel, in between seat and center console.

I am looking to an answer in regard to legality of doing so.

I'm under the impression that since I have my LTCF, and I am in a vehicle, even being docked not on body, it is still considered concealed in my vehicle.
Hence, since I have my LTCF, this should be legal?

I appreciate the response, I am glad to finally register, as I have been a long time lurker.

Thanks again guys/gals.

[JG93]

My question is in regards to loaded, docked firearm in a vehicle, as well as travelling through our tri state area.
With a LTCF.
Thank you.

Vehicles:
Openly or concealed does NOT matter to vehicles, nor does its loaded or unloaded status, only the fact that there is a "firearm"(handgun, SBS, SBR) in, on, or upon a vehicle. Any device that is used to transport people is a vehicle. Yes, that includes horses, bicycles, motorcycles, boats, trains, airplanes, cars, trucks, trolleys, etc, etc. YOU NEED A LICENSE TO TRANSPORT A HANDGUN IN, ON, OR UPON A VEHICLE UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO/FROM ONE OF THE EXEMPTED LOCATIONS IN 18.61.6106.(B). ************* Without a license you cannot transport an unloaded "firearm" in a vehicle just for the mere practice of open carry.

[Steve in PA]

A loaded firearm (handgun) anywhere in the vehicle requires the person to have a LTCF.

A firearm in a vehicle is not "concealed". A loaded firearm requires the person to have the LTCF. An unloaded firearm, which can be transported for several reasons does not require a LTCF nor is it considered "concealed".

[Just1more]

A loaded firearm (handgun) anywhere in the vehicle requires the person to have a LTCF.

A firearm in a vehicle is not "concealed". A loaded firearm requires the person to have the LTCF. An unloaded firearm, which can be transported for several reasons does not require a LTCF nor is it considered "concealed".

INCORRECT!!!

[Steve in PA]

INCORRECT!!!

What is "INCORRECT"????

[Just1more]

On the road - bad reception. Re PA law (only ) others I do not know
Having a firearm (handgun)’loaded or unloaded is acceptable under only a few exceptions - as stated in pa firearm laws - I am. Long guns never loaded- no exceptions
Not sure if these are all. I am not a lawyer ....To a range and back no stops - gun store to sell or fix (no stops)- gun class -(no stops) shooting range (no stops) Cannot drive around with a gun just to go To Walmart for example. Concealed means in the vehicle not in the open as open carry on foot. You cannot just carry an unloaded gun thinking it’s ok without a ltcf.
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Regardless of loaded /unloaded Then there are transport laws from one abode to another ie summer home The books are free at various state reps offices

[Banks]

The more I read threads like this, the more I feel like a second class citizen.

[Steve in PA]

On the road - bad reception. Re PA law (only ) others I do not know
Having a firearm (handgun)’loaded or unloaded is acceptable under only a few exceptions - as stated in pa firearm laws - I am. Long guns never loaded- no exceptions
Not sure if these are all. I am not a lawyer ....To a range and back no stops - gun store to sell or fix (no stops)- gun class -(no stops) shooting range (no stops) Cannot drive around with a gun just to go To Walmart for example. Concealed means in the vehicle not in the open as open carry on foot. You cannot just carry an unloaded gun thinking it’s ok without a ltcf.
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Regardless of loaded /unloaded Then there are transport laws from one abode to another ie summer home The books are free at various state reps offices

Again, what was incorrect about my statement?

Concealed does NOT mean.....in a vehicle. The wording is concealed on or about ones person OR in a vehicle. A firearm in a vehicle is just that......in a vehicle. It is neither concealed nor not concealed. It is in a vehicle. For it to be loaded in a vehicle, the person must possess a LTCF. As I said in my previous statement, a LTCF is not needed to transport the unloaded firearm in certain circumstances.

The term “certain circumstances” can be fully understood by reading the exceptions to needing a LTCF.

So, please elaborate on what I said that is not correct.

[JG93]

A loaded firearm (handgun) anywhere in the vehicle requires the person to have a LTCF.

A firearm in a vehicle is not "concealed". A loaded firearm requires the person to have the LTCF. An unloaded firearm, which can be transported for several reasons does not require a LTCF nor is it considered "concealed".

Thanks Steve.
So essentially as long as you have a LTCF, you can legally carry loaded anywhere in your vehicle.

[internet troll]

Thanks Steve.
So essentially as long as you have a LTCF, you can legally carry loaded anywhere in your vehicle.

AFAIK a pistol..... yes.

A long gun...... No