New PA LTCF Holder - Vehicle Questions

**Statkowski** · April 25th, 2019, 09:24 PM

A firearm in or on a vehicle is nothing more than a firearm in or on a vehicle. Concealed or unconcealed has nothing to do with it.

**JG93** · April 25th, 2019, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Statkowski

A firearm in or on a vehicle is nothing more than a firearm in or on a vehicle. Concealed or unconcealed has nothing to do with it.

This is what I've come to learn.
It doesn't matter what you call it, if you wanna carry a pistol loaded on yourself or on your seat, you HAVE to have a LTCF.

I do understand the premise of being concealed in a vehicle, because it isn't actively visible.

Definitely good arguements and points in this thread though.

**Statkowski** · April 25th, 2019, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by JG93

I do understand the premise of being concealed in a vehicle, because it isn't actively visible.

If it's sitting on your dashboard it is definitely not concealed, but it is in your vehicle.

We're arguing oranges and tangerines here - both closely related, but different.

**Emptymag** · April 26th, 2019, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Statkowski

If it's sitting on your dashboard it is definitely not concealed, but it is in your vehicle.

We're arguing oranges and tangerines here - both closely related, but different.

It's not concealed if it's in your glove box either - it's just in your glove box.
Being visible or not has absolutely no bearing on anything in regards to transporting a firearm.

EDIT: It's a License to CARRY Firearms - not a License to Conceal Firearms - although you DO need a LTCF in order to carry concealed.

**JG93** · April 26th, 2019, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

It's not concealed if it's in your glove box either - it's just in your glove box.
Being visible or not has absolutely no bearing on anything in regards to transporting a firearm.

EDIT: It's a License to CARRY Firearms - not a License to Conceal Firearms - although you DO need a LTCF in order to carry concealed.

I concur.

**Gun** · April 27th, 2019, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Just1more

BEST place to learn the laws is to read them from the law book. Not on here - everyone has their “opinions” and cannot be taken as gospel. That’s my best answer to you & anyone else looking for answers

To the OP. Here is an perfect example of how the law is taken differently by members of the firearm community - we all believe our answer is right but we all cannot be. Take this thread with a grain of salt (-:

Why are you still arguing with someone who quoted the actual law?

And that quote of the law was from here, https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...&div=0&chpt=61

which is no different than what your state representative will hand out in booklet form.