We recognize the need for 2nd amendment, but will we recognize time for revolution?

[ThomasJ]

I'm afraid that time may be upon us. After witnessing what Congress and the President have been doing over the past few weeks, this country's distinct shift to socialism, seeing that the G7 leaders are getting together and that the Italian prime minister is calling for the suspension of world markets so that "we can rewrite the rules of international finance"... I'm afraid it's time.

It's not going to be something so black and white - like a military coup and suspension of the Constitution - that everyone would realize it. It's happening now - it's been happening for years, in fact - and it's happening a little at a time. Our liberties and economic foundation have slowly been chipped away; and our complacent, apathetic Entertainment Tonight, government-educated (indoctrinated) public who think the two party system is truly a two party system, unaware of the chokehold they have on the "democratic" process, isn't blinking an eye.

This is a descent into madness, people are yelling "stop!" and the talking heads and politicians aren't listening. They are only interested in maintaining power.

So when will we heed the words of our founding fathers? The tools were given and inherent rights guaranteed by them, codified in our Constitution, but will we be able to recognize the time for revolution? Is it now?

[Pa. Patriot]

So when will we heed the words of our founding fathers? The tools were given and inherent rights guaranteed by them, codified in our Constitution, but will we be able to recognize the time for revolution? Is it now?

Tough question.

And a tough time to be faced with it. We live in a global community now and people are programmed to be more dependent on .Gov than in times past, particularly 1776.

It's a long hard conversation involved in answering that question.

The only glimmer of hope I can think of off the top of my head, in comparison to prior "revolutions" is that a small % of the population *can* change things. The majority simply go with the flow.

For now, that is all I have to add to this massive

[WhiteFeather]

Some you might find this book a interesting read, it been around for years.

The one difference I have with the author is most people will not support a Revolution, Nor will I. I would support a restoration to the Constitution as written.

http://billstclair.com/lodge/Books101.shtml

101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- opening lines of 101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe

This is the original-the underground classic from a then-unheralded writer that sold out within a month of its first printing. Now in its updated fourth printing, 101 Things To Do Til The Revolution is still helping people liberate themselves, prepare for challenging times and monkeywrench an increasingly tyrannical system.

It's irreverent, practical, humorous, dead serious, sassy and above all filled with useful resources for people who want to be free.

From the dedication:

his book is based upon the premise that, when government turns bad, the best people ultimately become criminals. The people don't change; the laws
do. Initiative, dissent, individual pleasures and exercise of one's basic rights become "crimes"....

The ideal citizen of a tyrannical state is the man or woman who bows in silent obedience in exchange for the status of a well-cared-for herd animal. Thinking people become the tyrants worst enemies.

Before their thunder roars, there is a period of anticipation, in which more occurs than the literal-minded tyrant can ever understand. A few overt acts of sedition shatter the heavy peace. But the greater force, unrecognized, rolls forward in near silence, as millions of individuals quietly withdraw their consent from the state. The pundits call it apathy.They could not be more wrong.

That time is now. And we are those people.

This book is dedicated to you, the enemy of the state.

The Critics Criticize

"The book, 101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution is not suited for introduction into a correctional facility."-John M. Hurley, Warden, U.S. Penitentiary, Administrative Maximum, Florence, Colorado (Curious about the above comment? Click here to see how the disapproving Mr. Jailer Hurley happened to get the book.)
"Buy this book by the crate!" -Vin Suprynowicz, syndicated columnist
"This thing is going to be declared seditious and be pulled off the market. Please send me 10 copies." -- An Arizona attorney
"Send us a copy, too!" -- The FBI
"Dear FBI: Not until we see the cash." -- The publisher
"Swell book!" -- Jim Incollingo, a reader who said he would be honored to have (and hoped he would not be prosecuted for having) his extremely succinct review included here.








"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --opening lines of 101 Things To Do'Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe


"The ideal citizen of a tyrannical state is the man or woman who bows in silent obedience in exchange for the status of a well-cared-for herd animal. Thinking people become the tyrants worst enemies."


"This book is dedicated to you, the enemy of the state."



What are the 101 Things To Do'Til The Revolution? Here's the table of contents

1. Don't write to your congresscritter
2. Govern yourself
3. Love the ones you're with
4. Don't vote; it only encourages them
5. Do write letters to newspapers and magazines.
6. Write poetry
7. Question authority
8. Kill your TV
9. Get rid of your dependencies
10. Be ready to profit from others' dependencies
11. Just say NO
12. Know the difference between mala in se and mala prohibita.
13. Use pre-paid phone cards for privacy
14. Join a gun-rights group
15. Be a Simon Jester
16. Don't be a terrorist
17. Oppose property seizure with all your might
18. Celebrate the Fourth of July
19. Celebrate April 19
20. Cultivate some Mormon friends
21. Don't give your social security number
22. Visualize Vermont Carry
23. Don't talk to strangers
24. Don't talk to people you know, either
25. DO write to your congresscritter
26. Visualize no government
27. Fly the Gadsden flag
28. Dare to keep DARE out of your local schools
29. Identify the informant in your midst
30. Remember Mother Batherick
31. Take your kids out of government school
32. Keep your sense of humor
33. Assume all telephones are tapped
34. Don't debate
35. Cover your assets
36. Expect to l ose everything, anyway
37. Respect individuals, not groups
38. Fun and Freedom on the Internet
39. Don't say anything you don't want the world to remember
40. Throw key words into your e-mail
41. Use PGP intelligently
42. Challenge all assumptions
43. Move to a small town
44. Read: fiction
45. Read: history
46. Read: founding fathers & philosophers of freedom
47. Read: monkey wrenching & getting around the system
48. Read: self reliance
49. Read: strategic thinking and fighting
50. Read: political periodicals
51. You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat
52. On the other hand...
53. Bust anti-freedom organizations by driving them broke
54. Another charming use for 1-800 numbers
55. Respect the individual, not the office
56. Don't blame anybody else for your troubles
57. Stand up for people who stand up for their rights
58. Don't cooperate with the friendly census taker
59. Know where your line in the sand is drawn
60. Buy and carry the Citizens' Rule Book
61. Join FIJA
62. Keep a record of your dreams
63. Consider Sovereign Citizenship
64. Get your records to safety
65. Watch your local government
66. Don't let your possessions imprison you
67. Cultivate cheap tastes
68. Close your bank accounts
69. Create a fake plot or organization
70. Create a real organization
71. Join the tax protesters on April 15
72. Learn dumpster diving
73. Get healthy!
74. Learn to disappear in a crowd
75. Find a balance point in dealing with people
76. Follow your bliss
77. Your three-day grab & go kit
78. Building your emergency water supply
79. Building your emergency food supply
80. Building your medical kit
81. Your survival weapons supply
82. Start thinking about tools & equipment
83. Some places to find all of the above
84. Building your skills
85. Prepare your children, pets and aging relatives
86. Avoid "bear bait" cars and other attention-getting vehicles.
87. Find a non-government occupation
88. Never beg for your rights
89. Make "them" fill out your paperwork
90. If you must vote (part I)....
91. Get to know your neighbors
92. Network-but wisely and discreetly
93. Intimidate back
94. Know when-and whether-you could kill
95. If you must vote (part II)...
96. Learn your privacy rights and protect them
97. Bury gold, guns and goodies
98. Maybe you're already a "terrorist"
99. Put a warning sign on your property
100. If you can risk it, don't pay your income taxes
101. Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes

[Pa. Patriot]

Great book. Purchased it years ago.

[ThomasJ]

Sorry for the somewhat rambling post. Didn't quite put it into the exact words I wanted, but glad to see you guys understand the basic idea. I'm out of town visiting my parents and have been inundated nonstop with the television - and the only channels my father watches are the business and market channels (as well as cable news)...this and the recent events spurred my post. Also a result of visiting a very good friend of mine. In 31 years, I don't think we've ever seriously talked politics/government, but we did briefly last night. He just purchased a glock, partly because of where he fears we're headed.

Thanks for that book recommendation. I'll pick it up.

The one difference I have with the author is most people will not support a Revolution, Nor will I. I would support a restoration to the Constitution as written.

But it may take a revolution to do so. When I first came to this site, I learned of an incident in Tennessee (my home state). Can't remember where, when, or who, but a citizen militia overthrew their local government and restored order.

[Pa. Patriot]

...
But it may take a revolution to do so.

More likely, it takes a revolution to *maintain* such an action.

The American revolution was fought *after* declaring independence from the tyranny of the English rule.

If we modern day patriots declare independence from our current Federal version of the government, and reinstate the original constitution. I guarantee it will take a revolution to keep it in place.

...When I first came to this site, I learned of an incident in Tennessee (my home state). Can't remember where, when, or who, but a citizen militia overthrew their local government and restored order.

That would be the "battle of Athens"
http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm

Today, such an action would probably be responded to as an "act of domestic TERRORISM" by the Fed and responded to with military force thanks to their newly decreed powers under the "Patriot Act".

[jon'76]

Well Mccain or Obama we are screwed. IDK why gun owners seem to flock to mccain when he is possibly even more of a threat than obama. Obama wants to ban your guns, but mccain wants to finish implementing the American Police State, and once that's in place your guns are next.

Remember he "reaches across the isle", or in other words the bastard makes deals which are mutually beneficial with the dems; but all benefits are at the expense of the people.

IMO the government can do whatever they want and I'll just keep on living, but when they cross the line and come after me then they reap what they've sewn.

Everytime someone claims to be a law-abiding citizen I want to slap them. WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS. There are so many laws in this country its impossible not to be in violation of some inane law written down somewhere. The thing is these laws are obviously stupid and we're never prosecuted for them until we piss someone off.

You may not sing in the bathtub.

No more than two packages of beer at a time may be purchased, unless you are buying from an official “beer distributor”.

You may not catch a fish by any body part except the mouth. (never hooked a tail?)

There is a ban on men becoming aroused in public in Allentown. (watch it guys)

[SilentRage]

you've all probably read this one by now but it's worth one more time ,,


http://www.seizeliberty.com/essays/carpelibertas.htm

[dc dalton]

As much as it saddens me to say it I honestly feel at this point there is soon going to come a time where it is the only choice. People MAY be sheep but even sheep turn and bite if you kick them enough.

There is a great divide growing in this country and I am not talking politics (remember no more of that for me until after the election). I am talking about the great divide between the haves and the have nots. You can slap a person and they may turn the other cheek but when you take away the ability to even live day to day while they watch others living the life of luxury with their billion dollar bonuses you just about have to expect something to snap. When they see these massive greedy companies getting anything they want and yet they can't put food on the table something is going to snap and its going to be damn ugly when (and if) it happens.

I saw the first 'line in the sand' drawn yesterday by that sheriff in Illinois. Now I am not going to say he is right or he is wrong but he has now become somewhat of a symbol of "we're not going to take it any more" ... that is powerful and can become even more powerful if others start following suit. 'Little guys' sometimes become the poster child for massive changes ... I'm not saying he will but you never know.

The more people see this crap on TV about companies like AIG and their excursions on the tax payer dollar, the more inept they perceive these overpaid buffoons the madder they are going to get and then one spark is going to start the flame, one homeowner pissed off enough to stand up to the eviction (violently) and that flame can turn into one hell of a fire.

It may also start when one state, a state with the courage to stand up and say enough and REALLY mean it, a state that says "we quit" ... that I can HONESTLY see happening.

Again, I am sad it came to this, it breaks my heart to see my country falling apart and while she is raped by the powers that be and I can only hope beyond hope that we can take back this country without bloodshed and war, but I am really starting to wonder if that's what may come of this mess.

[edstephan]

Again, I am sad it came to this, it breaks my heart to see my country falling apart and while she is raped by the powers that be and I can only hope beyond hope that we can take back this country without bloodshed and war, but I am really starting to wonder if that's what may come of this mess.

I'm hoping it happens sooner rather than later when I'm old and infirmed because I have little faith in my children to have the discipline or will to follow through and regain the country.
A sad state of affairs
Just my 2¢
Ed