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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Because it's the law.

    Also, if there is a problem, you have no financial recourse if you have not complied with their terms.
    What law?
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    What law?
    http://americanshootingjournal.com/a...ping-firearms/
    Here is exactly what the ATF ‘Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide’ (ATF P 5300.4) says:
    (B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    I had to go around and around with UPS last time I shipped a rifle for service. The representative on the phone actually told me they could not ship firearms AT ALL even though I could see on their policy statement that it was permitted.

    I don't know if the phone representative was poorly trained, incompetent, or substituting his personal agenda for UPS policy.

    And this was a call to UPS, not the UPS store.

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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    UPS is not a public entity, it's their company, their rules and their flukes. If a common carrier such as UPS determines that anything you want to ship is not profitable or beneficial to them in any way, shape or form it is their right to refuse to haul it. Furthermore, it is an obligation to do so for the sake of their stockholders. ABF had a list of things that we were not to pick up when I was still working, I expect that that list still exists today.
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    Quite frankly, it would aid in preventing them from getting lost. ATM, I think I'd actually favor it despite the cost.
    And reduce the possibility of damage......

    I am fighting it out right now over a rifle they shipped and cracked the stock.

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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by Str8liner View Post
    And reduce the possibility of damage......

    I am fighting it out right now over a rifle they shipped and cracked the stock.
    It's hard to prevail with such a claim and when they do pay it's rarely worth the effort to get what pittance they'll allow. The first thing they're going to say is that it wasn't packaged properly.
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRecon View Post
    ahem... I'd like to ship some "machine tool parts"
    Not an option. Don’t get caught.
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Ups is great we all should use them as much as possible *










    * I own ups stock
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    Yeah, why are you telling them its a gun? People have sticky fingers.
    Because lying to common carriers will get your pea pea slapped.
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    Default Re: UPS says all guns myust go next day air

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    UPS is not a public entity, it's their company, their rules and their flukes. ....
    They wrote down their rules for their employees to follow and for everyone to see. All they are being asked to do is to follow their own rules!
    IANAL. I don't give legal advice. I'm only stating my OPINION.
    (Did I really need to say that on an Internet forum? LOL)

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