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    Default Preemption bill introduced

    Mark Keller has again introduced his enhanced preemption legislation. https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...type=B&bn=1066

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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    Thanks for that info but...color me stupid, how do I read the bill? All I can find there is an intro.

    Never mind, I found it.
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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    It's great to see a piece of legislation like that, I'll have to go give Dave Maloney an attaboy for it.
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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    They need to start adding in that those found guilty of violating preemption are sentenced to summary execution. Cuts through the bullshit

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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    Maybe we can push this bill on May 6th? Would be nice to have a positive bill to push rather than just telling them to vote against bad bills.

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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    While a significant improvement, there are still a lot of issues with the bill. Also, if we're actually going to *push* for a change, we should also demand that preemption include knives, so that knives can only regulated by the General Assembly, as well.
    Joshua Prince, Esq. - Firearms Industry Consulting Group - www.PaFirearmsLawyer.com

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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    Quote Originally Posted by SIGFAN86 View Post
    They need to start adding in that those found guilty of violating preemption are sentenced to summary execution. Cuts through the bullshit
    That could be seen as a violation against the right against cruel and unusual punishment. Although losing your job and pension if found guilty is a great motivator.

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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    Punitive rather than just actual damages would be a nice stick to keep municipalities in line.

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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    Here are both bills:

    House:
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...r=1066&pn=1227

    Senate:
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...r=0531&pn=0566

    We (the Lehigh Valley Tea Part 2nd Amendment Committee) will be pushing both of these hard at 2A day and lobbying all of our 11 House Reps & 4 Senators in the Valley. Statewide, we need 25 or so dems in the house and 8 in the Senate for a veto-proof majority vote. The argument we will try is "when municipalities have their own laws, law abiding people are forced to leave their guns home or risk a summons. No is effected more by this than minorities. Women, latino, black, LGBT and the disabled are among society's most vulnerable and a mashup of local ordinances leaves them defenseless."
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    Default Re: Preemption bill introduced

    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    Here are both bills:

    House:
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...r=1066&pn=1227

    Senate:
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...r=0531&pn=0566

    We (the Lehigh Valley Tea Part 2nd Amendment Committee) will be pushing both of these hard at 2A day and lobbying all of our 11 House Reps & 4 Senators in the Valley. Statewide, we need 25 or so dems in the house and 8 in the Senate for a veto-proof majority vote. The argument we will try is "when municipalities have their own laws, law abiding people are forced to leave their guns home or risk a summons. No is effected more by this than minorities. Women, latino, black, LGBT and the disabled are among society's most vulnerable and a mashup of local ordinances leaves them defenseless."
    Good stuff. We should be pushing this hard. It sticks in my craw that we are on the defensive fighting a dozen or more infringement bills and actual lawbreaking council members in Pittsburgh are in the process of actually violating State Firearms laws, with the Governor's full support, and the Legislature hasn't said a mumblin' word about it. Credit these Legislators for putting these back on the table. Right now, this law is largely toothless because no DA is actually going to prosecute the crime or LEO even make an arrest. Private rights of action which allow for recovery of costs are a more potent weapon.
    Last edited by Wilderness 1864; April 8th, 2019 at 01:38 PM.

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