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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Unintentional printing and flashing causes unknown open carry which can be a problem if the carrier is unaware of it.
    The carrier is in effect OC'ing when he thinks he is CC'ing, and this can decrease defensibility and effectiveness if postured for CC when actually OC.
    Odd....the arguments would indicate that the unknown open carry would put the person into the <50 category.
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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    OP don't sweat it. Even if you are BADLY printing, the vast majority will not notice, a small majority might notice and think it to be something else (medical, cell phone, etc) and a very small percent will know exactly because they CC.

    As stated by many there is nothing illegal about printing

    Hell even when OC the majority of the public does not even see it
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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Odd....the arguments would indicate that the unknown open carry would put the person into the <50 category.
    I don't agree with that.
    I am talking about the obvious issues of posture, weapon vulnerability, defensive strategy, and effectiveness of threat response.

    Irrespective of any statistic, the idea that an openly armed person is never attacked is overblown.
    Our openly armed police have been ambushed and killed many times, this is a fact.

    To say that a police officer's open carry should have prevented their ambush is silly.
    To say that their ambush was not specifically tailored to attack their open carry posture is also silly.

    Open carry or conceal carry as you wish.
    But do so deliberately and behave accordingly to give yourself the best chance of survival.
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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    I mostly conceal because I feel that an open carry person would be the first shot in any planned attack/mass shooting.

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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by rickwhoo View Post
    I mostly conceal because I feel that an open carry person would be the first shot in any planned attack/mass shooting.
    You are discounting the idea that the coward attacker might choose a different target when he realizes there is the potential for armed resistance. That said:

    You do you, and I will do me.

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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
    Armed defense is put at a disadvantage with indeliberate behavior.
    Can we sticky this sentence?

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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
    You are discounting the idea that the coward attacker might choose a different target when he realizes there is the potential for armed resistance. That said:

    You do you, and I will do me.
    Maybe.. But he might just shoot me first and continue on with his plans. I would rather be alive and be able to take him out if something like this happens.

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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Good points, from all. Thank you. It’s cleared up a concern for sure that I had. Thank you all as well for the big welcome to this community.

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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    This I’ve thought of as well.

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    Default Re: Profiling - CC vs Open: What Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by SIGFAN86 View Post
    Chances are, unless your actively open carrying, no one will notice. Too many sheep with their heads in their phones
    So true - especially when they should be paying attention. Like - oh, I don’t know, driving maybe?!

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