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April 2nd, 2019, 07:21 AM #1Banned
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Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
I already know I’m ineligible for a PA LCTF due to a dumb mistake several years ago with marijuana. I do own guns legally and can purchase. My question is, if I were to apply for a non resident permit from a state with more lax requirements, can I use that Permit to carry in my car? The exceptions include car carry for any legally recognized state permit, regardless of reciprocity. And a non resident ccw from another state IS a legal permit, but the non-resident part has me second guessing. Thoughts?
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April 2nd, 2019, 07:25 AM #2
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
I believe the answer is no. After Philadelphia cracked down on PA residents using Florida permits, the whole state ended reciprocity unless you are a resident of the state the license was issued.
I am not a lawyer.
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April 2nd, 2019, 08:13 AM #3
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April 2nd, 2019, 11:58 AM #4
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
The law makes no exceptions for residency. It specifically says "Any person."
§ 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
(a) Offense defined.--
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:
(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
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April 2nd, 2019, 12:11 PM #5
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
Correct me if I am wrong: To get a Non-Resident from any other state, that state will require you to have a resident permit from your state. A few states do make exceptions for states that with Constitutional Carry
I would say a PA resident, who is prohibited, and later caught in PA trying to use a non-resident permit would but up the creek without a paddleRetired US Army
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April 2nd, 2019, 12:11 PM #6
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
Click on the Link....
Pennsylvania Superior Court has ruled that PA Residents must have a PA issued Permit to carry in
Pennsylvania. See Decision Here.IANAL. I don't give legal advice. I'm only stating my OPINION.
(Did I really need to say that on an Internet forum? LOL)
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April 2nd, 2019, 01:35 PM #7
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
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April 2nd, 2019, 03:36 PM #8
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
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April 2nd, 2019, 04:15 PM #9
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
A PA resident must have a PA LTCF in order to carry in PA.
A PA resident cannot carry in PA on a license issued to them by another state. The case has been mentioned above.
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April 2nd, 2019, 04:44 PM #10
Re: Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?
Agree, but as with many firearm laws, many LE are not up to speed.
*Since* the court ruling, I've "successfully" presented my UT CCW on occasion, and had it "recognized" as valid for my needs. Of course, I do possess a PA LTCF as well, which I would have presented if needed, but I like to push boundaries and test the knowledge of LE as much as I can. I've found that what they "know" is frequently different than the factual reality contained in statute and case law.Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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